Wow, GREAT idea! Lets write our congressmen! Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Dube via EV Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:37 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 'Too quiet' electrified cars estimated as US regulator headaches
The way to kill this bill is to have _all_ cars, regardless of drive train, emit a certain number of dB. The quiet ICE luxury cars will object, likely loudly. :-) It is my job, as the driver of the vehicle, to avoid pedestrians, animals, bicyclists, etc. I have managed quite successfully since 1996. No problems whatsoever in all those years. Not even a close call. I _occasionally_ have to roll down the window and politely say, "Excuse me please."to make someone standing and chatting in a parking lot aware that you are present and to move. Just amend the bill for _all_ vehicles, not just electric, and it will disappear "quietly". :-) Bill Dube' On 11/29/2015 1:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/25/too-quiet-electric- > and-hybrid-cars-create-headache-for-us-regulators > 'Too quiet' electric and hybrid cars create headache for US regulators > 24 November 2015 Reuters > > [image > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/25/too-quiet-electric- > and-hybrid-cars-create-headache-for-us-regulators#img-1 > US regulators want hybrid and electric cars to give audible warnings > at low speeds. Photograph: Simon Stuart-Miller/Simon Stuart Miller > (commissioned) ] > > Road safety authorities and automakers wrangle over new rules > requiring loudspeakers to warn cyclists and visually impaired people > > US regulators are grappling with new rules for electric and hybrid > cars that are too quiet, leading to fears of collisions with cyclists > and sight-impaired pedestrians unless the vehicles are fitted with > artificial noise-making systems. > > The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates the odds > of a hybrid vehicle being involved in a pedestrian crash are 19% > higher compared with a gasoline-powered vehicle. > > The car safety regulator has said that if the proposal were > implemented there would be 2,800 fewer pedestrian and bicyclist > injuries annually. There are about 125,000 such accidents each year. > > But the regulators have been forced to delay until at least March 2016 > a government plan, in the works since 2013, to require “quiet cars” – > vehicles that operate at low speeds without a gasoline engine running > – to add new audio alerts at low speeds. > > The proposed rules would require automakers like Tesla, General > Motors, Ford and Toyota to add automatic audio alerts to electric and > hybrid vehicles traveling at 18 miles per hour or less. > > This would apply to hybrid and electric cars, SUVs, trucks, buses and > motorcycles. Advocates for the blind have pushed for the rules. > > Automakers have raised concerns about the alerts, saying they are too > loud and too complicated. They also want them required only at lower > speeds. > > Under a 2010 law passed by Congress the NHTSA was supposed to finalize > the regulations by January 2014. Automakers will get a minimum of 18 > months from the time the rules are finalized before they must begin adding > the alerts. > > NHTSA administrator Mark Rosekind said in July the regulation would be > finalized by November – a timetable the agency says in a new > government document that it will not be able to meet. > > The Transportation Department, in explaining the latest delay, said in > a document posted on its website that “additional coordination is > necessary”. > NHTSA declined to elaborate on Tuesday. > > NHTSA in 2013 said it expected the rules would cost the auto industry > about $23m in the first year because automakers would need to add an > external waterproof speaker to comply. > [© 2015 Guardian News] > > > > https://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/us-delays-quiet-car-rules-covering-hy > brids-and-electric-cars-until-march-2016/ > US delays ‘quiet car’ rules covering hybrids and electric cars until > March > 2016 > 24 Nov 2015 Reuters U.S. regulators are delaying rules that would > require electric and hybrid cars to alert sight-impaired pedestrians > and bicyclists until at least mid-March, according ... > ... > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/11/feds-postpone-hybrid-ev-warni > ng-noises-next-year/ Feds Postpone Hybrid and EV Warning Noises Until > Next Year November 25, 2015 Federal regulators have postponed rules > to require hybrid and EV carmakers to add audible warnings to their > cars to alert nearby pedestrians, bicyclists and visually impaired > people, Reuters reported. 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