As far as I know, no one is making a Nanoparticle battery yet. In current list ion batteries there is 6% aluminum and 12% copper so there is no money in recycling them. A 100th cell might give you 6 Oz copper and 2 Oz aluminum
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Michael Ross via EV <[email protected]> Date: 2/14/2016 6:26 AM (GMT-06:00) To: brucedp5 <[email protected]>, Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ensure your spent li-ion batteries are properly recycled/disposed-of Doesn't sound like they factor in the uptick in demand that will accompany large scale use in EVs. It will be far easier to recycle the cells than to mine anew the constituent elements I'd Like ion cells. To bad LiFePO4 isn't going to cut is because the really are far less permicious. The copper and aluminum electrode will get the cells recycled alone the other elements will be a bonus. Li titanate will be similarly benign to LiFePO4 if that catches l On. Nevertheless we have to recycle them even if they are completely benign and cheap as dirt itself, whatever chemistries become prevalent. On Feb 14, 2016 3:37 AM, "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://www.domain-b.com/technology/20160206_microorganism.html > Lithium battery catalyst found to harm key soil microorganism > 06 February 2016 > > [image > http://www.domain-b.com/technology/images/microorganism_domain-b.jpg > Shewanella oneidensis thrives on metal ions, converting them to metals like > iron that serve as nutrients for other microbes. The bacterium was shown to > be harmed by the compound nickel manganese cobalt oxide, which is produced > in nanoparticle form and is poised to become the dominant material in the > lithium ion batteries that will power portable electronics and electric > vehicles. (Illustration by Ella Marushchenko, University of Minnesota) > ] > > The material at the heart of the lithium ion batteries that power electric > vehicles, laptop computers and smartphones has been shown to impair a key > soil bacterium, according to new research published online in the journal > Chemistry of Materials. > > The study by researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the > University of Minnesota is an early signal that the growing use of the new > nanoscale materials used in the rechargeable batteries that power portable > electronics and electric and hybrid vehicles may have untold environmental > consequences. > > Researchers led by UW–Madison chemistry Professor Robert J. Hamers explored > the effects of the compound nickel manganese cobalt oxide (NMC), an > emerging > material manufactured in the form of nanoparticles that is being rapidly > incorporated into lithium ion battery technology, on the common soil and > sediment bacterium Shewanella oneidensis. > > ''As far as we know, this is the first study that's looked at the > environmental impact of these materials,'' says Hamers, who collaborated > with the laboratories of University of Minnesota chemist Christy Haynes and > UW–Madison soil scientist Joel Pedersen to perform the new work. > > NMC and other mixed metal oxides manufactured at the nanoscale are poised > to > become the dominant materials used to store energy for portable electronics > and electric vehicles. The materials, notes Hamers, are cheap and > effective. > > ''Nickel is dirt cheap. It's pretty good at energy storage. It is also > toxic. So is cobalt,'' Hamers says of the components of the metal compound > that, when made in the form of nanoparticles, becomes an efficient cathode > material in a battery, and one that recharges much more efficiently than a > conventional battery due to its nanoscale properties. > > Hamers, Haynes and Pedersen tested the effects of NMC on a hardy soil > bacterium known for its ability to convert metal ions to nutrients. > > Ubiquitous in the environment and found worldwide, Shewanella oneidensis, > says Haynes, is ''particularly relevant for studies of potentially > metal-releasing engineered nanomaterials. You can imagine Shewanella both > as > a toxicity indicator species and as a potential bioremediator.'' > > Subjected to the particles released by degrading NMC, the bacterium > exhibited inhibited growth and respiration. ''At the nanoscale, NMC > dissolves incongruently,'' says Haynes, releasing more nickel and cobalt > than manganese. ''We want to dig into this further and figure out how these > ions impact bacterial gene expression, but that work is still underway.'' > > Haynes adds that ''it is not reasonable to generalize the results from one > bacterial strain to an entire ecosystem, but this may be the first 'red > flag' that leads us to consider this more broadly.'' > > The group, which conducted the study under the auspices of the National > Science Foundation-funded Center for Sustainable Nanotechnology at > UW–Madison, also plans to study the effects of NMC on higher organisms. > > According to Hamers, the big challenge will be keeping old lithium ion > batteries out of landfills, where they will ultimately break down and may > release their constituent materials into the environment. > > ''There is a really good national infrastructure for recycling lead > batteries,'' he says. ''However, as we move toward these cheaper materials > there is no longer a strong economic force for recycling. But even if the > economic drivers are such that you can use these new engineered materials, > the idea is to keep them out of the landfills. There is going to be 75 to > 80 > pounds of these mixed metal oxides in the cathodes of an electric > vehicle.'' > > Hamers argues that there are ways for industry to minimise the potential > environmental effects of useful materials such as coatings, ''the M&M > strategy,'' but the ultimate goal is to design new environmentally benign > materials that are just as technologically effective. > [© 2016 The Information Company] > ... > > http://canadafreepress.com/article/electric-car-battery-materials-could-harm-key-soil-bacteria > Electric-car battery materials could harm key soil bacteria > February 10, 2016 American Chemical Society > > > > http://www.bipowerusa.com/documents/disposal.asp > Lithium Battery Disposal > http://retrievtech.com/ > http://www.call2recycle.org/locator/ > http://www.greencitizen.com/recycling-lithium-ion-batteries/ > http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/03/f13/arravt020_es_coy_2013_p.pdf > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/evln/ > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Ensure-your-spent-li-ion-batteries-are-properly-recycled-disposed-of-tp4680481.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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