I won't speak for mobile phone and laptop batteries, but when we're talking about traction batteries, I don't think there will be a problem.

First, the car owner will be done with the battery well before its useful life is over. So he'll swap it or junk the car with the battery in it.

Next, whoever receives the partially spent battery will have a strong incentive to resell it for backup power, or whatever. So he's not going to send it to a landfill. Also, too heavy: the dump charge would be significant.

Third, whoever buys the spent battery for backup power will eventually have the ultimate disposal problem. If these are home owners, then there could be a problem. However, again, the dump charge would be high so finding a place to take them for recycling is a good incentive.

Alternatively, if it's primarily utilities, data centers, and the like that are using these spent batteries, then we have far fewer points of contact to deal with. Much easier to provide carrots and sticks.

Finally, people are used to having a core charge for lead-acid batteries. So it might be easy to expand that core charge to include Li-ion batteries.

Peri

------ Original Message ------
From: "EVDL Administrator via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 14-Feb-16 4:07:08 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ensure your spent li-ion batteries are properly recycled/disposed-of

On 14 Feb 2016 at 0:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

 ''Nickel is dirt cheap.

That's not what I hear.

 It is also toxic. So is cobalt,''

Oh goodie, another tiny pebble for the anti-EV folks to amplify into a
boulder.

Nickel does have some toxicity, but it's nothing like lead or cadmium, and we've used those materials in batteries for many decades. The key is that
we reclaim them.  As long as we reclaim the metals used in lithium
batteries, rather than dumping them into landfills, I don't see the problem.

''However, as we move toward these cheaper materials there is no longer
 a strong economic force for recycling

Now THAT could pose a problem. People are not known for doing the right
thing unless they're paid to.

One fix would be a law requiring a substantial core deposit on each battery,
but that would boost the purchase prices of EVs.  Not a winner.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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