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[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Nissan-changing-telematics-hardware-and-carrier-tp4680705.html;cid=1456771663376-76 Nissan changing telematics hardware and carrier ] % I do not have a cell phone, but I have been doing some research into getting one as I plan to do some traveling to check out other places that I might relocate to. Since I am a noob on this topic, I hope others with more knowledge/experience will post their views. IMO I never liked carwings as it was always too little, too late and never up to date when compared to plugshare.com . But of the many noob Leaf EV drivers I talk to (both new, and used), they only know what is in front of them (carwings), and were clueless of plugshare.com 's free up to date listings. If I had a Leaf that had the old 2G module, I would likely not update it as I could get all I want from the cell phone I plan to buy. Car-makers put all this tech into the vehicle, just to let it get old (then the owner has to pay to upgrade it). When a better plan would be to see that people constantly update their phones, thus just make the vehicle's connectivity go through the phone. The vehicle could have cell signal boost amplifiers for the phone to use, but the phone would pass its display onto the vehicle's center display. Below as some links I found that might give more detail on AT&T's dropping of 2G ... % [dated] https://gigaom.com/2013/11/07/att-begins-cannibalizing-its-2g-and-3g-networks-to-boost-lte-capacity/ AT&T begins cannibalizing its 2G and 3G networks to boost LTE capacity Nov 7, 2013 ... Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile are all turbo-charging their 4G networks, but AT&T ... begun building a new LTE network in the PCS band, the swath of digital communications spectrum where carriers have traditionally run their 2G voice and 3G data services. [image] ... AT&T has a 5 MHz-by-5 MHz network running in the 1900 MHz PCS band — band 2 is PCS — which previously contained only HSPA and GSM signals ... AT&T ... plans to cannibalize ... refarm — portions of its networks for LTE ... In March of 2012, AT&T started culling all 2G-only PCS phones from its New York networks in order to make way for a shutdown of GSM in the PCS band. At the time, AT&T said it would repurpose that GSM spectrum for its 3G and 4G networks, which was a bit confusing since AT&T calls its HSPA+ service 4G. But it’s now obvious it had LTE intentions for the band as well. New York City NYC In September of 2012, FCC documentation revealed two hidden bands on AT&T’s version of the iPhone 5 that didn’t appear in Apple’s(s aapl) official spec sheet: PCS and cellular. At the time, no GSM operator had plans to deploy LTE in either band. Apple included them probably because AT&T asked it to. Since then PCS and cellular support have been showing up in a lot of devices, ... these new PCS LTE networks go live some of AT&T’s most popular phones will automatically connect to them — even phones from a generation back. It also means that AT&T almost certainly has plans to repurpose some of its 850 MHz cellular spectrum for LTE as well. ... As AT&T continues to connect more customers to LTE devices, its HSPA networks will less use. Then it can start adding that freed-up bandwidth to the 10 MHz it’s already using. We’re also going to see a lot more 2G and 3G cannibalization in the coming years. T-Mobile was the first, shutting down most of its GSM network capacity to make room for LTE. Then came Sprint, which canned its old Nextel network so it could use its spectrum for Spark. Verizon has said it will start replacing CDMA with LTE in 2015. 2G and 3G networks will stick around for a while. Even as phones all migrate to LTE, the old networks will be needed in rural areas and to support machine-to-machine communications. But as carriers migrate their voice and SMS services to IP and the vast majority of traffic flows to LTE, those old networks will become scarcer and scarcer. [© 2016 Knowingly] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM ... 2G networks developed as a replacement for first generation (1G) ... Subsequently, the 3GPP developed third-generation (3G) UMTS standards followed by fourth-generation (4G) LTE Advanced standards, which do not form part of the ETSI GSM standard ... ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#United_States United States[edit] Various carriers such as AT&T have made announcements that 2G GSM technology in the United States is in the process of being shut down so that carriers can reclaim those radio bands and re-purpose them for future technology needs. The shut down will be complete by the end of 2016. All 2G GSM devices will lose service at some point between now and the end of 2016.[12]However, T-Mobile has no plan of shutting down their 2G network. This shut down is having a notable impact on the electronic security industry where many 2G GSM radios are in use for alarm signal communication to Central Station dispatch centers. 2G GSM radios must be replaced by newer generation radios to avoid service outages. ... https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-Discussion-Support/dad-no-longer-able-to-use-2G-phone/td-p/4754711 dad no longer able to use 2G phone Feb 16, 2016 - Received letter from AT&T that the 2G phone my 90 yr. old dad uses because of its simplicity, Nokia Model 6010, is no longer going to work under my current plan and has to be updated ... ... https://forums.att.com/t5/Phone-Device-Upgrades/RE-impending-mandatory-upgrade-What-AT-amp-T-URL-s-show-if-a/td-p/4750053 RE: impending mandatory upgrade: What AT&T URL(s) show if a phone is 2G, 3G, etc.? Feb 8, 2016 We got a letter last week from AT&T telling us how much they appreciate our business. It said that we will need to upgrade our 2G phone(s) this year or we will not be able to use them anymore, presumably even for regular phone communications. ... https://www.google.com/search?q=refarm+technology refarm technology For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Nissan-changing-telematics-hardware-and-carrier-tp4680705p4680709.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
