Not to doubt you but I don't know how you get anywhere close $.10/mile -
truly amazing.
My 17 year old minivan comes in around $.60/mile and that's without
adjusting for inflation. So far I've had minimal expenses on my 2011
Leaf - replaced a tire, wipers (not counting taxes, insurance). It's
somewhere around $.65/mile at a bit over 20K miles. Only one bar down
so far. If the battery holds out, that cost should be down to $.35/mile
in a few more years whereas the minivan rate will probably go up.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Willie2 via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 25-Mar-16 7:44:48 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: When will Tesla's electricity come to the Ag
farm?
On 03/25/2016 09:07 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Willie,
That's a very impressive summary, you wrote. I suspect, from what
I've read here and elsewhere, when EVs are used in a commercial
environment the financial picture is completely different. Repairs and
maintenance always drop to the bottom line where they might be ignored
in personal finances. And we would like to think that EVs have less
of those expenses than ICEs. Without prying for too much information,
can you tell us whether your EV investments came out reasonably good
compared to ICE equivalents when you factor in purchase price?
I used to drive 81-86 Isuzu diesel pickups. If I bought used and put a
lot of miles on them, they cost me as little as $.10/mile for all costs
including initial cost. I tend to drive them until they have no
residual; I still have about six. For a lightly driven Isuzu, it was
no more than $.20. Less than $.05 for fuel at that time. My second
favorite vehicle was a diesel Sprinter. Over 50k miles. It cost well
under $.50/mile, about $.15 for fuel. The Hyundai, at 50k miles, cost
me well over $1, maybe $1.50. The Leaf, 20k miles, was probably just
under $1; it had $15k residual. The Tesla, 70k miles, is approaching
$1; I hope to get down close to $.50. My first imiev has less than 10k
miles so it is still close to $2. The first imiev had a net cost of
about $16k; the second will be less than $9k. Both new. If I can put
enough miles on them, I expect to get well under $.50/mile.
I know you said your conversions did not. But you bought two iMiev
and a Leaf. Perhaps those did. And then a Tesla - probalby not, at
least not yet?
By the way, if you still have the Leaf, are you aware there was a
class action settlement where, I believe, Nissan must now replace bad
batteries of earlier years (even 2011) with a new 2016 model if the
bad one loses more than 3 bars.
I sold the Leaf to a neighbor and keep track of it. He recently tried
to get them to replace the battery but they declared it "good". His
range is down to about 45 miles. The Leaf instrumentation is
intentionally and maliciously obfuscated. "Bars" of all things!
Non-linear bars. Nissan recently offered me $50 under the class action
deal. $5k would have been more reasonable.
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