I've said it before and I'll repeat it here. A self-balancing motorcycle is a mind-crushingly complex problem to solve. Lit recently brought on a highly qualified controls engineer, but they still haven't shown a video of a prototype doing anything but very slow and ultra-basic moves. In the real world you need to handle multiple overlapping transitions in real time. Lit doesn't get that concept, nor do they have the technical horsepower to get there.
Motorcycles and cars use very different approaches to steering. Lit has chosen to use the car approach in their motorcycle - which not only adds to the technical challenge, but also guarantees this vehicle's dynamics will feel weird to both car drivers and motorcycle riders. I fear Lit, and now its Chinese copycat, will become very expensive failures. Chris On Jun 21, 2016 6:48 AM, "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]> wrote: > [ref > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Knockoffs-cn-motivate-gt-24k-Lit-C-1-self-balancing-2whl-EV-r-150mi-ts-100mph-td4682694.html > ] > > % Always a yrsold prototype, never a product4sale> still trolling4$ % > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/lit-motors-aev-gets-chinese-knockoff/ > Lit Motors is readying its auto-balancing two-wheeler as a Chinese > challenger appears > June 18, 2016 Albert Khoury > > [image > http://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/lit_motors-c1_05-2-640x0.jpg > lit motors aev gets chinese knockoff > ] > > It’s been nearly five years since Lit Motors unveiled its C-1 > Auto-Balancing > Electric Vehicle (AEV), which was slated to go on sale in 2013. The San > Francisco-based company has yet to put it into production, and now one > Chinese company is taking advantage of the delay. > > The lightweight C–1 commuter is laid out like a motorcycle, but Lit Motors > promises a greater degree of safety. The vehicle’s gyroscopic stability > technology keeps it from tipping over, and an early video even showed a > dramatization of it recovering after being struck by a car. > > Over 1,000 people have placed reservations for a C-1, but they’re going to > have to wait a while to take delivery. Elektrek reports that after > receiving > funding from Mark Pincus, co-founder and CEO at Zynga, and Larry Page, > co-founder of Google and CEO of Alphabet, Lit Motors is looking for more > money. In a recent conference, Kim said that with $20 million, production > can commence in about 24 months. > > Lit Motors CEO Danny Kim composed a letter to hopeful customers this week, > updating them on the stages of progress. “In addition to developing EP-5, > we > unlocked the doors to our storage facility and revived our beloved > prototype > EP-4 for dynamics testing,” Kim stated. “After installing a new custom > battery pack, we are rediscovering all of the elegant, innovative solutions > we made to this piece of engineering/design history.” > > Kim also mentioned that the company will be offering test drives in San > Francisco for those who pre-ordered a vehicle. > > Chinese companies have come under fire many times (with little repercussion > in many cases) for blatantly ripping off vehicle designs from heavy hitters > such as BMW, Mercedes, and Rolls Royce. This is apparently not limited to > four-wheel transport, as Beijing-based Lingyun Intelligent Technology is > developing its own gyroscopically balanced two-wheeler. > > Though a little healthy competition can be a good thing, you can’t deny the > striking similarities between startup LIT’s (even the acronym raises > suspicion) vehicle and Lit Motors’ AEV. The video below shows the single > seater in question as well as a two seater, which were displayed at the > recent Beijing Auto Show: > > Lingyun reported a “USD 8-digit Series A funding round” from “Beijing-based > angel investment fund Geek Bang, China Broadband Capital, Sequoia Capital > China, ZhenFund and Beijing-based private equity fund Hillhouse Capital > Management.” > > As is the usual case with these types of knockoffs, the original should be > a > better machine. Lit Motors predicts a 150-mile range on a 10kWh battery > pack > with a top speed of 100 mph, while Lingyun’s concept should get 62 miles on > a 3kWh pack and hit 62 mph. > > Lingyun has not announced any pricing, but Lit Motors places a tag of > $24,000. This is higher than earlier estimates, which were quoted as low as > $16,000. > [© digitaltrends.com] > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lit_Motors > Lit Motors Inc. is a San Francisco-based company that designs two-wheeled > vehicles, including ... In 2011 the company announced plans for a first > small production run in 2013 ... "It will take a 'baby elephant' to knock > over this bike" ... > http://litmotors.com/ > ... > [video dated > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0m-cUxMcJw > Lit Motors unveils all-electric, fully enclosed motorcycle > SmartPlanetCBS's channel Sep 12, 2011 > Lit Motors CEO Daniel Kim wants to reinvent the motorcycle as we know it > today. His idea? To design and manufacture a fully enclosed, two-wheeled > motorcycle that runs purely on electric. 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