Alan, Indeed - both busy (full time work and intl' travel coming up and 4 different Leaf-related projects going at the same time) as well as the observation that the light truck received the guts from a wrecked Leaf. Note that I cannot take credit for that project yet, I have just recently joined to help solve the electrical issues that caused the owner to pull his hair out. In fact, while he was relaying the whole story about the truck, it became clear that parts from 2 or 3 different Leafs were used to create this truck and it is certain that the parts that are required to be from the same vehicle to operate (keys, VCM, BCM and LBC) are in fact not at this moment. So, besides general advice on the electrical issues, I will take up the task to acquire a matched set of computers and keys to guarantee the vehicle will operate when the power button is pushed, but also trouble-shoot and correct some errors that were made in the battery, causing at least the BMS (LBC) to self-destruct. Mechanically the truck is well along, the 2013 Leaf drivetrain is installed and the power steering is working, the full bed will be available once the pack finds its permanent place *after* trouble-shooting the BMS wiring and the charging ports are already grafted into the front fender. The truck is far from ready, since it was stripped not only to install the Leaf parts but also to tackle rusted floor boards, so there is still plenty "Flintstones" ability but those holes will be welded and covered and it will still take a lot of time and effort to get it to work and look good. I am guessing that once everything works and all major welding is finished, we will find a body work enthusiast to help with tackling that part of the project, but it not only has potential - it is actually a fun concept to take a peppy and up-to-date EV like the Leaf and put it into the form factor of a vehicle with the utility and the appearance that speaks to people who will never consider a Leaf simply for its looks. Personally I have no issue with the bug-eyed Leaf appearance and I actually use it like a mini-truck at times, but that is just me. Probably also the reason I have two running Leafs in my name at the moment, besides the parts for the trucks.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Brinkman via EV Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:53 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Congrats: 100 mile EV-Range Club Cor, Are you using a Leaf drivetrain from a wrecked vehicle to install into the light pickup truck? You sound busy so we will anxiously wait for pictures, etc...... Be safe, Alan -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:40 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Congrats: 100 mile EV-Range Club Two more projects that I am involved in: US Electricar S10 truck (factory conversion originally with lead-acid) using a complete Leaf battery pack. In fact, this is not new and already another member of the US Electricar community is running this setup on the East coast. My approach is slightly different in that I install two complete Leaf packs into the original battery box of the truck. This will boost its range from the original ~40 miles to about 100 miles, but it will require just a little extra hardware to monitor the two packs. No changes are needed to the high voltage parts of the truck, as its battery box was already set up to handle two individual strings of the full pack voltage, including two contactors. The new part is handling two CAN buses to the two BMS computers that are monitoring the two strings individually and generating some outputs to inform and warn the driver/operator as well as safety things like dropping the contactors in an emergency when cell voltages get too high/low. The second project is even more ambitious: putting the complete Leaf drivetrain into a light pickup truck. This means the complete package from electric motor, halfshafts and even the wheels, to the charging (J1772 as well as CHAdeMO), the battery and battery management and all of the displays and drive gear selector and computers and relays. Only things that are already present on the truck such as tail lights will be spliced into the Leaf harneses. Some things are still to be decided such as power window regulators or keeping the manual rollup regulators from the truck? This is a challenging but very creative project. Note that also placing the Leaf drivetrain in another vehicle has already been done, there are Youtube videos about putting it into a VW bus for example. Hopefully before next EV rally we will be far enough along to drive the truck to the DeAnza campus and show this project off (and my S10). Regards, Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] Congrats: 100 mile EV-Range Club Looking at your EValbum page http://www.evalbum.com/1366 I hope you can arrange time to update it, so others can learn from what you have built. Using plugshare.com , I don't see much public EVSE anywhere near your home (Elsberry, MO - is it as nice as Mayberry was TV-portrayed?). So, I am assuming (see map) https://goo.gl/maps/xRwapnCtxCF2 you took Hwy61 south for 50mi to St. Peters which has one L2-6kW EVSE, and after verifying your EV could do a return trip, (did not use the EVSE and) headed back for a total trip of 100mi. If so, that would have been how I would have tested my range in your situation, and congrats on your accomplishment :-) Pickup trucks have long made good long range conversions (if you are willing to only have a two seat EV, and lose a lot of the truck's bed and carrying capabilities). They already have the suspension and brakes for the added weight (much less modifications needed). In the 1990's there was a higher range pu-truck called the 'Long Ranger', but that evdl record was lost with a previous evdl archive. There was a successor to it, the Red Beastie http://evalbum.com/037 John ' http://www.plasmaboyracing.com ' Wayland completed the project for the builder when he got ill. Here is a related video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XP5GFV5qQ On a web search the names 'Long Ranger' and also 'Red Beastie' bring up lots of other unrelated links. But trying to extend one's range has also seen some add-on trailers. ACP's Al Cocconi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Propulsion ACP's T-zero (a fore-runner to the GM-EV1, and to the Tesla Roadster, etc.) also offered a (Long Ranger) genset trailer to extend its range https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genset_trailer Here is a picture of a modified T-zero with 'Long Ranger' trailer to improve its aerodynamics http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/Untitled-6-1.jpg When GM took all the EV1 EVs away for unnecessary destruction, the EV1 lessees snapped up what available RAV4-EVs (gen1) there were, and a few later adapted ACP's Long Ranger to their RAV4-EVs http://www.evnut.com/images/rav4/rav_longranger/rav_longranger01.jpg But with today's much longer range, higher capacity battery chemistries and L3 DC quick EVSE, all of that is unnecessary. Ah, yes, EVs have a long and glorious history (I posted the above so noobs/newbs would know and not forget the many that have done so much for the EV-cause, so the public now has a transportation choice other than ice). 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