I got a banker to admit to me that even a certified check is in jeopardy of being reversed even months later.

Dan

On 11/21/2016 11:58 AM, Lawrence Harris via EV wrote:
Yup, sounds like a scam so if you want to proceed first make sure the cheque 
clears before you ship.  The typical additional part is they send a cheque for 
more than the amount saying the extra is for shipping or some such and ask that 
you refund them the difference, by cheque or money order.  Unfortunately often 
the cheque is drawn on a stolen account that the owner may not realize has been 
compromised so it can clear and appear good for sometimes a long time before 
the money is suddenly reversed and you are left dangling.  I worked this scam 
with a friend who was selling a wheel chair on craigslist and the guy sent a 
cheque for more than the value, wanted the chair sent to a third party along 
with the difference after shipping costs.  A couple of phone calls and it was 
obvious that it was  a scam.  We reported it to the police gave them the cheque 
and led the guy on for a bit before we stopped the communications.  Never did 
find out what the resolution was.

So be careful.

Lawrence

On Nov 21, 2016, at 07:02, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Mark,
There are some red flags that you are often warned about, such as using
a check or money order from abroad that appears legit on first sight,
but two or 3 weeks later your bank calls that the piece of paper is
worthless.
The most often occurring form of that scam was that they sent you a too
large payment, to cover the cost of shipment and honest sellers would
send the buyers a personal check or cash for the overage. So, after all
was said and done, they were out of their car, and shipping costs and
whatever cash or check they sent to the buyer, only left with a
worthless piece of paper.
So, if the type of payment you receive is not a guaranteed type of
payment (please ask your bank to confirm!) then you must wait a
*loooooong* time before even shipping your vehicle!

That said, it is possible that a (foreign?) buyer absolutely wants to
have a nice looking Ghia and then 3 grand is a bargain, EV or not. So,
it is possible that it simply is someone with more money than
realization of what an EV is, he simply wants a nice looking car and
someone will take care that it runs....
I hope you find out soon what the intent of the buyer is!

Cor van de Water
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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanson via
EV
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:22 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] Selling an EV on EBay

Hi folks
I'm curious if this is normal. I just sold my Ghia evalbum.com/4346 on
EBay for $3335.  The guy doesn't ask anything about EV operation when
I've sent a fair amount of info. I just get misspelled notifications
like the transporters will be soon pick up. Last night I was requested
to give my pay pal account number which I replied with my email address
was all he needed to pay or click on the ad to pay by PayPal. Now he
says he's mailing a bank check instead.  When I call his number I just
get some breathing and then hung up several times.  He doesn't appear to
be an EV enthusiast but hopefully the check will be ok.
I'm buying a Chevy Spark EV in Maryland Friday to go along with my Leaf.

Best regards
Mark in Roanoke Va

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