I do not have the exact dimensions of the enclosure. Has someone made .dwg
out of it?

I would like to figure out if the old enclosure is usable for upgraded
pack. Most likely outcome is we will need to make the packs completely and
just make sure the connectors and joints fit.

The old BMS master unit has to be removed from the old pack and put on the
new pack to fool the Leaf. That BMS is not going to do anything with the
LiFePO4 pack. I'll make a miniature pack (360V nx100 mAh) which that BMS
will be measuring. DC/DC between the LiFePO4 and LMO packs will keep them
on identical SOC so the Leaf BMS is fooled to think all is as nothing has
happened.

This is my $50 hack to go around the BMS problem. :)

-Jukka


2017-01-20 2:46 GMT+02:00 Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]>:

> Hi Jukka,
>
> I will hang on to the shells, they have been in my yard a few months
> already, I can wait a few more weeks ;-)
>
> Do you have the outline of the box? With the half-pack (24 modules stacked
> sideways) across the back
>
> (under the rear seat) and the two quarter packs under the front seats/rear
> footwell with small stacks of
>
> 4 + 4 + 2 + 2 modules on each quarter pack? The height of the shell varies
> quite a bit from front to back!
>
> There is also a stiffening bar across between the 4+4 and the 2+2 stacks,
> but it can be left out if it is in the way.
>
> Let me know if I need to ship it with the shell.
>
>
>
> Cor van de Water
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or
> interior/exterior/suspension parts?
>
>
>
> Thanks Cor!
>
>
>
> I will check what are the options to ship one set covers here. Last time I
> sent something from here to there about same size and weight was only about
> 300€.
>
>
>
> We can use the other set to upgrade one car in there if you're OK with
> that. Just hold on to them.
>
>
>
> I think I could have one set of covers even closer but I'd love to do 1st
> actual project with you. :)
>
>
>
> The cells I am going to do in lab as the manufacturing line is still under
> development.
>
>
>
> Very simplified description: Cellulose separator with anode (Graphene) and
> cathode (LiFePO4, large particle sizes only) printed directly on opposite
> sides of the separator and enclosed in graphene filled plastic cover with
> double layer gas barrier. No Al or Cu foils at all.
>
>
>
> The cells will be cut in shape so it covers the battery enclosure tightly.
> Cells are bipolar and ~1mm thick and just stacked on each other as the both
> sides of the cell is conductive.
>
>
>
> I will test few holes in the layers too so I can crimp the stack more
> evenly. I will not expect more than 300Wh/sqm at this point. Aim is at 500
> in next few years.
>
>
>
> Currently I am aiming almost solely in grid connected energy storage
> systems and only as service.
>
>
>
> -Jukka
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-01-19 10:44 GMT+02:00 Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]>:
>
> Jukka,
>
> I already have 2 complete (top and bottom shell) battery enclosures
> sitting in my yard that you can have for free.
>
> I might have the external connectors also (High voltage and the CAN bus /
> contactor control plug) for the enclosure.
>
> I don't have the control plug from the car, but I do have the high voltage
> wire from the car.
>
> There is a difference in the internals for the 2011/2012 Leaf battery
> versus the 2013+.
>
> These enclosures are for the 2013+ but the difference is mainly that they
> have only a few bolts to close them
>
> since they are supposed to be glued shut and the interior mounting
> positions of contactors, disconnect and
>
> stiffening bar are slightly different.
>
> I should have a disconnect somewhere, I can't recall for sure. I know that
> I have contactors if you are interested.
>
>
>
> What type of cells are you going to put in there to get that crazy
> capacity?
>
>
>
> BTW, shipment might be costly as the shell (especially the double-walled
> bottom) is heavy, it must be freighted
>
> as it is about 200 pounds per shell.
>
> Unless it can be picked up in person in Silicon Valley...
>
>
>
> Cor van de Water
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>
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or
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>
>
>
> How much for the battery enclosure with external connectors? I'll build
> upgraded pack inside it (60-80kWh). -Jukka
>
>
>
> to 19. tammikuuta 2017 klo 7.56 Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]>
> kirjoitti:
>
>         I am involved in trouble-shooting a pickup truck that is converted
> with
>
>         a (2013) Leaf drivetrain.
>
>         However, over the course of the project some mistakes were made
> and in
>
>         particular the BMS computer
>
>         (LBC in Nissan language) was damaged and discarded before I got
>
>         involved, but the LBC is coded
>
>         to the other computers in the car (in particular to the instrument
>
>         cluster, it seems) so the only way to
>
>         get the project rolling again is to install a matched set of
> computers
>
>         from another Leaf.
>
>
>
>         For that purpose, I consider buying a black 2015 Leaf that was
>
>         rear-ended but otherwise seems in good shape.
>
>         Doors, the whole front end, seats, airbags and so on appear to be
> in
>
>         great shape.
>
>         I only need the battery and the computers plus the lower instrument
>
>         cluster, everything else is available
>
>         so the combination of inverter, charger, motor and transmission is
>
>         available
>
>         plus all suspension, halfshafts, rear axle, doors and everything
> on the
>
>         front end: all lights, hood, bumper,
>
>         bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system,
> pumps,
>
>         harness and fuse boxes.
>
>         Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all
> airbags.
>
>         BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage
> as
>
>         well as some interior trim pieces
>
>         and door speakers.
>
>         Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to
> buy the
>
>         salvage Leaf and strip it.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>
>
>         Cor van de Water
>
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>
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