On 18 Oct 2018 at 22:50, robert winfield via EV wrote: > absolutely, categorically it is completely false to even imply that > Musk and the Saudi's were joining forces in any way except as > antagonists
I can't see where "absolutely, categorically" false comes from here. Nor do I see any antagonism, other than the fact that the Saudis also invested in a Tesla competitor, though I might have missed something. Don't forget that Elon Musk is at core a businessman. He may be more "green" (environmentally focused) than most business people, and perhaps one of the greenest CEO in the auto sector, and thank goodness for that. We need more of that in business. However, the green of money also matters to him. And if he doesn't manage to turn a profit with Tesla, he's not going to be able to continue making cars for very long. Can you imagine how it would all go down if he had to sell Tesla to, say, Ford or GM? Right now, Tesla still needs investors. The Saudi Wealth Fund is one of them. They invested in Tesla. That's a matter of public record. Important: they invested on the open market. It's quite possible that Musk didn't invite them to do so and had no foreknowledge of the investment. But even if that's so, he DID take note of it. And when Musk was floating the idea of taking Tesla private, he bragged that he had financing lined up. If I understand the reports correctly, some of that financing, though not all, would have been from the Saudi Wealth Fund. So clearly he'd discussed and negotiated that financing with the Saudis. Is that "joining forces"? Depends on your perspective, I guess. The thing is, the above matters are already public knowledge. No matter how much some folks here might want to help Tesla by shushing everyone else up about it, so as not to feed the Tesla naysayers, it's too late. The proverbial cat is out of the proverbial bag. The proverbial horse has fled the proverbial barn. Et cetera. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)