Good morning Bruce,  Best of Holiday Wishes and I wish you success on your 
upcoming procedures. 
Al Swackhammer, former owner of the Electric Auto Union.

> On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have a lot of time to spend on a debate on this topic (usually I
> just let people speak their minds, everyone is allowed an opinion). I have
> to prep for upcoming thyroid surgery, and more failing eye sight
> appointments (if I can't read nor type, I won't be able to post anymore -
> time to pull my plug and make room/resources-available for the next human
> generation). But, I will clarify my points:
> 
> David's reply leaves me to think he and I may not be talking about the same
> item. The item I posted
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/NPR-Fresh-Air-EV-program-yesterday-tp4692114p4692118.html
>  is not a full transcript of what was said on the .mp3 (audio) link
> https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/fa/2018/12/20181210_fa_01.mp3
>  the author's statements on the audio is what I disagree with.
> 
> The audio interview goes into greater detail of the author's
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Samuel+I.+Schwartz
>  comments in selling their book
> https://www.google.com/search?q=No+One+at+the+Wheel
> The author's statements:
> 
> -avs most disruptive since motor cars
>  (NPR likes to use negative words, replace disruptive with change. Same as
> rotary phones have changed to touch-tone, & change again to cell & tablets)
> 
> -fewer repair shops, car dealerships
> (There will always be a need for auto repair shops, and dealerships. Not
> everyone will want to give up owning or driving their own car, thus accident
> repairs, maintenance, + will happen)
> 
> -safety (5min)
> (NPR wording fears that the av will freeze-up/hang like an old MS-windows 95
> pc. NPR is so backward, when it comes to vehicles or technology. They still
> remember the old-days of the blue-screen-of-death, etc.)
> 
> -not sharing data with the public
> (this is not true. All av players are sending out pr news-items I see
> regularly of their progress, successes, issues, R&D status,+
> I do not post much on auton because not many on the evdl are interested, nor
> want to bother with self-driving cars. But I see plenty of data of how
> quickly avs will be for sale.)
> 
> -the track record is not very good with avs (9min)
> (not true, Tesla autopilot get too much coverage as an av when it isn't. But
> waymo and other av tech companies are way ahead of Tesla and get nil
> recognition of having a better auto ai, +)
> 
> -One av making multiple trips to serve a family (11min)
> (the NPR rep incorrectly uses the example of one av driving the father to
> work, returns home, then drives the lids to school, return, then drives the
> mother to work, returns just to sit idle for hours. IMO 1 car in a family is
> ridiculous. It will be at least 2. Currently, ice sit in their work parking
> for many hours each day, but NPR is not saying that is bad. All this NPR
> wording is wack/slanted.
> 
> -avs will be smaller (16min)
> (cars will stay the SUV width with lots of interior space. So avs will not
> shrink, especially if avs are going to be used as ride share to make money
> while not in use by the owner. i.e.: user you expensive av with Uber when
> you are at work, etc)
> 
> -making lanes narrower (17min)
> (when humans and avs share a hwy, the lanes have to stay the same lane
> width. Humans do not follow the rules, even when not drunk or high)
> 
> - NPR rep sez: I'm ending this interview so conflicted (18min)
> (after 18min of the 35+min interview, it was no longer about avs so nothing
> that would relate to EVs ... )
> 
> 
> As I said NPR has a long history of pumping out negative EV items. A search
> of the evdl archive on  NPR
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=Negative+NPR+Story&i=36
>  brings up items where the NPR links are now dead (media outlets do not keep
> old pages around forever). But, below are a few active ones:
> 
> 
> https://www.npr.org/2011/11/21/142464818/can-electric-cars-help-automakers-reach-55-mpg
> November 21, 2011
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangelism-tp4092072p4092683.html
> I heard a story on NPR this morning that was pretty negative on EVs: ...
> Nov 21, 2011
> ]
> 
> 
> https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124012917
> February 23, 2010
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-seva-NPR-Lithium-battery-glut-tp1567774.html
> Feb 24, 2010]
> 
> 
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130433987
> October 12, 2010
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/2nd-Part-of-NPR-s-EV-Horror-Story-tp2992193.html
> Oct 12, 2010 ... I am actually an NPR Junkie ... But I sure don't like the
> SLANT this reporter puts on her EV Experience...  It's probably the SLANT
> that a perspective EV buyer with a strong does of Pessimism would put on it
> all... One which would never buy or lease an EV anyway....
> ]
> 
> 
> I did find a less negative NPR item, some might enjoy going  back to the
> old-days: 
> 
> https://www.marketplace.org/2007/12/06/business/electric-car-you-already-have-one
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/npr-EV-story-tp423984.html
> npr EV story
> Dec 06, 2007
> ]
> 
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