Good morning Bruce, Best of Holiday Wishes and I wish you success on your upcoming procedures. Al Swackhammer, former owner of the Electric Auto Union.
> On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > I don't have a lot of time to spend on a debate on this topic (usually I > just let people speak their minds, everyone is allowed an opinion). I have > to prep for upcoming thyroid surgery, and more failing eye sight > appointments (if I can't read nor type, I won't be able to post anymore - > time to pull my plug and make room/resources-available for the next human > generation). But, I will clarify my points: > > David's reply leaves me to think he and I may not be talking about the same > item. The item I posted > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/NPR-Fresh-Air-EV-program-yesterday-tp4692114p4692118.html > is not a full transcript of what was said on the .mp3 (audio) link > https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/fa/2018/12/20181210_fa_01.mp3 > the author's statements on the audio is what I disagree with. > > The audio interview goes into greater detail of the author's > https://www.google.com/search?q=Samuel+I.+Schwartz > comments in selling their book > https://www.google.com/search?q=No+One+at+the+Wheel > The author's statements: > > -avs most disruptive since motor cars > (NPR likes to use negative words, replace disruptive with change. Same as > rotary phones have changed to touch-tone, & change again to cell & tablets) > > -fewer repair shops, car dealerships > (There will always be a need for auto repair shops, and dealerships. Not > everyone will want to give up owning or driving their own car, thus accident > repairs, maintenance, + will happen) > > -safety (5min) > (NPR wording fears that the av will freeze-up/hang like an old MS-windows 95 > pc. NPR is so backward, when it comes to vehicles or technology. They still > remember the old-days of the blue-screen-of-death, etc.) > > -not sharing data with the public > (this is not true. All av players are sending out pr news-items I see > regularly of their progress, successes, issues, R&D status,+ > I do not post much on auton because not many on the evdl are interested, nor > want to bother with self-driving cars. But I see plenty of data of how > quickly avs will be for sale.) > > -the track record is not very good with avs (9min) > (not true, Tesla autopilot get too much coverage as an av when it isn't. But > waymo and other av tech companies are way ahead of Tesla and get nil > recognition of having a better auto ai, +) > > -One av making multiple trips to serve a family (11min) > (the NPR rep incorrectly uses the example of one av driving the father to > work, returns home, then drives the lids to school, return, then drives the > mother to work, returns just to sit idle for hours. IMO 1 car in a family is > ridiculous. It will be at least 2. Currently, ice sit in their work parking > for many hours each day, but NPR is not saying that is bad. All this NPR > wording is wack/slanted. > > -avs will be smaller (16min) > (cars will stay the SUV width with lots of interior space. So avs will not > shrink, especially if avs are going to be used as ride share to make money > while not in use by the owner. i.e.: user you expensive av with Uber when > you are at work, etc) > > -making lanes narrower (17min) > (when humans and avs share a hwy, the lanes have to stay the same lane > width. Humans do not follow the rules, even when not drunk or high) > > - NPR rep sez: I'm ending this interview so conflicted (18min) > (after 18min of the 35+min interview, it was no longer about avs so nothing > that would relate to EVs ... ) > > > As I said NPR has a long history of pumping out negative EV items. A search > of the evdl archive on NPR > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=Negative+NPR+Story&i=36 > brings up items where the NPR links are now dead (media outlets do not keep > old pages around forever). But, below are a few active ones: > > > https://www.npr.org/2011/11/21/142464818/can-electric-cars-help-automakers-reach-55-mpg > November 21, 2011 > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangelism-tp4092072p4092683.html > I heard a story on NPR this morning that was pretty negative on EVs: ... > Nov 21, 2011 > ] > > > https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124012917 > February 23, 2010 > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-seva-NPR-Lithium-battery-glut-tp1567774.html > Feb 24, 2010] > > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130433987 > October 12, 2010 > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/2nd-Part-of-NPR-s-EV-Horror-Story-tp2992193.html > Oct 12, 2010 ... I am actually an NPR Junkie ... But I sure don't like the > SLANT this reporter puts on her EV Experience... It's probably the SLANT > that a perspective EV buyer with a strong does of Pessimism would put on it > all... One which would never buy or lease an EV anyway.... > ] > > > I did find a less negative NPR item, some might enjoy going back to the > old-days: > > https://www.marketplace.org/2007/12/06/business/electric-car-you-already-have-one > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/npr-EV-story-tp423984.html > npr EV story > Dec 06, 2007 > ] > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/archive/ > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)