Hi all,

I'm tired of seeing all these reports about Tesla accidents. Yes, it's sad to 
hear 
about people being hurt, but it really is nothing more than a car accident 
story 
and I really see no reason to have them part of our 'newsfeed'.

Rush Dougherty
Tucson AZ 85719


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> Subject: [EVDL] (more) EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire
> Rindge-NH
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> % NH media slow to provide details on weeks old item %
>
> [ref
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-Speeding-
> teen-split-Tesla-X-in-half-on-fire-Rindge-NH-tp4692387.html
> EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire Rindge-NH Neighbors
> helped save lives after fiery Tesla X crash in Rindge Dec 31, 2018 ]
>
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/tesla-crash-new-ipswich-fatal-22971318
> New Ipswich teen's death is state's first fatality involving an electric car 
> January
> 24, 2019  DAVID BROOKS
>
> [images
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/0140e826-b217-4987-904d-
> 566992b1087f/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph01
> 19-year-old New Ipswich girl was killed following a fiery crash on Perry Road 
> in
> Rindge last month involving a Tesla Model X electric car  / Courtesy
>
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/c18dd992-229d-4573-adf2-
> 1f8c81f2b445/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph02
> Three local teens were seriously injured in a fiery crash on Perry Road in 
> Rindge
> Wednesday night
>
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/6cf10f1a-978b-4fed-b94f-
> c7703a14f534/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph03
> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on 
> Perry
> Road in Rindge Wednesday night  / Michelle Barnhart
>
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/d416f86a-4fc8-4bad-b274-
> 76e7045aed70/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph04
> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on 
> Perry
> Road in Rindge Wednesday night
>
> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/bb2a8292-9d4e-4030-9cbd-
> 0958b0f18107/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph05
> ]
>
> The death of a woman who was burned when the Tesla Model X in which she
> was riding hit a tree is the first fatal accident involving an electric car 
> in 
> New
> Hampshire, raising the issue of emergency services' preparation for dealing 
> with
> this new technology.
>
> "I believe there's going to be a lot of work with this, with us, with the 
> state, 
> with
> Tesla, looking at what do we need to know," said Rickard Donovan, fire chief 
> in
> the town of Rindge, scene of the December one-car crash. "There have been a
> lot of inquiries I have been getting about this."
>
> The accident happened Dec. 26, when a 2017 Tesla Model X, the SUV version of
> the electric company's car, crashed on Perry Road in Rindge at about 8 p.m.
> The vehicle broke into two pieces and burst into flames, igniting some brush
> and trees.
>
> Nina Colasanto of New Ipswich, who had turned 19 that day, was pulled from
> the wreckage by friends and passersby. She died Saturday after a series of
> surgeries treating extensive burns.
>
> Colasanto is the first person in New Hampshire to die as the result of an
> accident involved an all-electric vehicle, according to Michael Todd, 
> spokesman
> for the New Hampshire State Police.
>
> The driver of the Tesla, 17-year-old Travis Olson of Rindge, and a second
> passenger were injured, but not seriously. The accident is still under
> investigation by the New Hampshire State Police, according to Rindge police.
> Lithium-ion batteries
>
> Electric cars are powered by hundreds of individual lithium-ion batteries
> connected together. Lithium-ion batteries in laptop computers, cell phones and
> other devices have been known to burst into flame, especially if they get
> damaged.
>
> A story after the accident in the Monadnock Ledger-Transcript quoted a person
> living near the accident who described how the flames reacted after the
> accident.
>
> "So that was a lithium-ion battery that was on fire, which was pretty scary,"
> Michelle Barnhart was quoted as saying. "Every time it hit another cell in the
> battery it exploded again."
>
> However, it's not clear whether electric cars like the Tesla are more or less 
> to
> fires or explosions after accidents, compared to traditional cars carrying
> flammable gasoline or diesel fuel.
>
> A 2017 study done for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
> NHTSA, said that electric cars haven't been around long enough for conclusions
> to be reached about comparative safety, but concluded: "The propensity and
> severity of fires and explosions from ... lithium ion battery systems are
> anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those
> for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels."
>
> The Tesla Model X received top safety ratings from NHTSA in 2017, and was the
> first SUV to do so, according to news reports.
>
> About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the 
> most
> recent year for which statistics are available. Virtually all of those fires 
> involved
> gasoline-powered cars.
> Copious amounts of water
>
> Chief Donovan said it took at least a half hour for firefighters to put out 
> the
> flames at the Dec. 26 fire. He wasn't sure whether the fire was harder or 
> easier
> to put out than a similar accident would be that involved a gasoline-powered
> car.
>
> "It took lots of water, copious amounts of water. They tried (fire-fighting) 
> foam,
> but it really wasn't reacting to it," Donovan said. "It seemed like you 
> needed a
> ton of water - we didn't know, was it reacting to metals?"
>
> However, he added, "I've noticed over the past few years ... it's taking a 
> little
> more to put out car fires" for all vehicles, perhaps because of more 
> fire-reactive
> metals and materials being used in vehicles.
>
> This uncertainty is a major problem for first responders, Donovan said.
>
> The state's Fire Safety Academy has held classes in dealing with fires 
> involving
> alternative fuel cars, not just battery-powered cars but also those fueled by
> other liquids such as compressed natural gas. They teach important facts for
> first responders, Donovan, such as "where are the shutoffs? where are the main
> lines you can't cut into?"
>
> Donovan said he'd like to see training specific to electric cars, which are 
> likely to
> become much more common on New Hampshire roadways. But training, he
> added, can only do so much.
>
> "It's like with a structure fire. We teach in the classroom, but until you 
> get a 
> live
> fire, it's hard to really know. It's hard to duplicate in a training 
> environment -
> the smoke, the heat," he said. "It's the same thing with a car fire."
>
> A major difference between battery fires and gasoline fires is speed:
> Gasoline ignites almost immediately when it comes in contact with a spark or
> flame, and the fire spreads rapidly. Battery fires typically take more time 
> to 
> built
> the heat necessary to start the fire. Another difference is that battery 
> fires 
> can
> linger and reignite more easily than most liquid-fuel fires. Tesla, for 
> example,
> has warned first responders that it can take 24 hours for a battery fire to be
> fully extinguished.
> [© concordmonitor.com]
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