Thank you for saying something. We get a lot of good stories, many that I pass on to others, but recently we’ve been getting these “dog bites man” stories.
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jan 24, 2019, at 8:46 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm tired of seeing all these reports about Tesla accidents. Yes, it's sad to > hear > about people being hurt, but it really is nothing more than a car accident > story > and I really see no reason to have them part of our 'newsfeed'. > > Rush Dougherty > Tucson AZ 85719 > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV >> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:16 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: brucedp5 >> Subject: [EVDL] (more) EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire >> Rindge-NH >> >> >> >> % NH media slow to provide details on weeks old item % >> >> [ref >> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-Speeding- >> teen-split-Tesla-X-in-half-on-fire-Rindge-NH-tp4692387.html >> EVcrash: Speeding-teen split Tesla-X in-half &on-fire Rindge-NH Neighbors >> helped save lives after fiery Tesla X crash in Rindge Dec 31, 2018 ] >> >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/tesla-crash-new-ipswich-fatal-22971318 >> New Ipswich teen's death is state's first fatality involving an electric car >> January >> 24, 2019 DAVID BROOKS >> >> [images >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/0140e826-b217-4987-904d- >> 566992b1087f/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph01 >> 19-year-old New Ipswich girl was killed following a fiery crash on Perry >> Road in >> Rindge last month involving a Tesla Model X electric car / Courtesy >> >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/c18dd992-229d-4573-adf2- >> 1f8c81f2b445/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph02 >> Three local teens were seriously injured in a fiery crash on Perry Road in >> Rindge >> Wednesday night >> >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/6cf10f1a-978b-4fed-b94f- >> c7703a14f534/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph03 >> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on >> Perry >> Road in Rindge Wednesday night / Michelle Barnhart >> >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/d416f86a-4fc8-4bad-b274- >> 76e7045aed70/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph04 >> A 2017 Tesla Model X was split in two and caught on fire after a crash on >> Perry >> Road in Rindge Wednesday night >> >> https://www.concordmonitor.com/getattachment/bb2a8292-9d4e-4030-9cbd- >> 0958b0f18107/teslaCrash-cm-012319-ph05 >> ] >> >> The death of a woman who was burned when the Tesla Model X in which she >> was riding hit a tree is the first fatal accident involving an electric car >> in >> New >> Hampshire, raising the issue of emergency services' preparation for dealing >> with >> this new technology. >> >> "I believe there's going to be a lot of work with this, with us, with the >> state, >> with >> Tesla, looking at what do we need to know," said Rickard Donovan, fire chief >> in >> the town of Rindge, scene of the December one-car crash. "There have been a >> lot of inquiries I have been getting about this." >> >> The accident happened Dec. 26, when a 2017 Tesla Model X, the SUV version of >> the electric company's car, crashed on Perry Road in Rindge at about 8 p.m. >> The vehicle broke into two pieces and burst into flames, igniting some brush >> and trees. >> >> Nina Colasanto of New Ipswich, who had turned 19 that day, was pulled from >> the wreckage by friends and passersby. She died Saturday after a series of >> surgeries treating extensive burns. >> >> Colasanto is the first person in New Hampshire to die as the result of an >> accident involved an all-electric vehicle, according to Michael Todd, >> spokesman >> for the New Hampshire State Police. >> >> The driver of the Tesla, 17-year-old Travis Olson of Rindge, and a second >> passenger were injured, but not seriously. The accident is still under >> investigation by the New Hampshire State Police, according to Rindge police. >> Lithium-ion batteries >> >> Electric cars are powered by hundreds of individual lithium-ion batteries >> connected together. Lithium-ion batteries in laptop computers, cell phones >> and >> other devices have been known to burst into flame, especially if they get >> damaged. >> >> A story after the accident in the Monadnock Ledger-Transcript quoted a person >> living near the accident who described how the flames reacted after the >> accident. >> >> "So that was a lithium-ion battery that was on fire, which was pretty scary," >> Michelle Barnhart was quoted as saying. "Every time it hit another cell in >> the >> battery it exploded again." >> >> However, it's not clear whether electric cars like the Tesla are more or >> less to >> fires or explosions after accidents, compared to traditional cars carrying >> flammable gasoline or diesel fuel. >> >> A 2017 study done for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, >> NHTSA, said that electric cars haven't been around long enough for >> conclusions >> to be reached about comparative safety, but concluded: "The propensity and >> severity of fires and explosions from ... lithium ion battery systems are >> anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those >> for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels." >> >> The Tesla Model X received top safety ratings from NHTSA in 2017, and was the >> first SUV to do so, according to news reports. >> >> About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the >> most >> recent year for which statistics are available. Virtually all of those fires >> involved >> gasoline-powered cars. >> Copious amounts of water >> >> Chief Donovan said it took at least a half hour for firefighters to put out >> the >> flames at the Dec. 26 fire. He wasn't sure whether the fire was harder or >> easier >> to put out than a similar accident would be that involved a gasoline-powered >> car. >> >> "It took lots of water, copious amounts of water. They tried (fire-fighting) >> foam, >> but it really wasn't reacting to it," Donovan said. "It seemed like you >> needed a >> ton of water - we didn't know, was it reacting to metals?" >> >> However, he added, "I've noticed over the past few years ... it's taking a >> little >> more to put out car fires" for all vehicles, perhaps because of more >> fire-reactive >> metals and materials being used in vehicles. >> >> This uncertainty is a major problem for first responders, Donovan said. >> >> The state's Fire Safety Academy has held classes in dealing with fires >> involving >> alternative fuel cars, not just battery-powered cars but also those fueled by >> other liquids such as compressed natural gas. They teach important facts for >> first responders, Donovan, such as "where are the shutoffs? where are the >> main >> lines you can't cut into?" >> >> Donovan said he'd like to see training specific to electric cars, which are >> likely to >> become much more common on New Hampshire roadways. But training, he >> added, can only do so much. >> >> "It's like with a structure fire. We teach in the classroom, but until you >> get a >> live >> fire, it's hard to really know. It's hard to duplicate in a training >> environment - >> the smoke, the heat," he said. "It's the same thing with a car fire." >> >> A major difference between battery fires and gasoline fires is speed: >> Gasoline ignites almost immediately when it comes in contact with a spark or >> flame, and the fire spreads rapidly. Battery fires typically take more time >> to >> built >> the heat necessary to start the fire. Another difference is that battery >> fires >> can >> linger and reignite more easily than most liquid-fuel fires. Tesla, for >> example, >> has warned first responders that it can take 24 hours for a battery fire to >> be >> fully extinguished. >> [© concordmonitor.com] >> >> >> >> >> For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: >> http://evdl.org/archive/ >> >> >> {brucedp.neocities.org} >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
