The materials in a Lead acid battery are up to 98% recyclable. That is not same as 98% of Lead acid batteries being recycled.
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 21:57, Bill Dube via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > The ~50% recycled percentage is steady-state. Same for 80% of raw > lead going into battery production. These percentages have not changed > substantially for 50 years. (The percentage of raw lead going into > battery production has actually grown to more than 85% in recent years.) > > In order for lead-acid battery recycling to be 95%, there would > have to be 25% growth in the number of batteries in service (or storage, > or whatever.) This is a _lot_ of batteries. _*One quarter*_ of _*all*_ > lead acid batteries produced every year! Two million tons of batteries. > > There is simply no way that "nearly 100%" of lead acid batteries > are recycled. It is a good story, but if you simply look at the lead > industries own figures, it doesn't hold water. > > https://www.ila-lead.org/lead-facts/lead-production--statistics > https://www.ila-lead.org/lead-facts/lead-uses--statistics > > The key is that the percentage has remained the same for many many > years. There aren't non-polluting "reservoirs", (like hoards of used > batteries in homes,) that are building steady for years and years at > 25%. Folks /eventually/ do "something" with dead lead-acid batteries. > The truth is, many get tossed in the land fill, especially the smaller > ones, like UPS batteries, emergency light batteries, alarm batteries, etc. > > Bill D. > > On 11/21/2019 9:26 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > > > More to the point, lead-acid batteries are not recycled at "nearly > > 100%" as > > > claimed. If you look at the numbers provided by the lead industry > > itself, at > > > _least_ 30% of them escape the recycling stream > > > > Hopefully, whoever does this sort of bean counting took into account > > the number of batteries still in useful service, and adjusted for > > those that are still installed in inoperable or stored equipment and > > vehicles that will eventually return them for recycling. > > > > There is also a portion of lead, which includes batteries, that gets > > shunted to other uses outside the recycling stream. Private reuse of > > lead for ammunition, nautical ballast, etc might account for some of > > the discrepancy. I suspect that there may also be some hoarding of > > lead for speculative purposes, and by preppers who worry about the > > zombie apocalypse > > > > With commodity prices being what they are, and active gathering and > > recycling of scrap, including non-ferrous metals, by a wide selection > > of citizenry, I can't see 30% of batteries being dumped in rivers, etc. > > > > Home Power magazine did a couple of in-depth, first-person articles on > > lead battery recycling some years back. While not absolutely > > definitive, it represents some independent research on the subject. If > > anyone is interested, I can rip and post some PDF's or dig up links to > > the articles on the HP web site. > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20191121/7c490bc7/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
