Wow, that is a travesty. Utilities should not be allowed to get away with
that kind of greed.
I’d say that ALL 16 kW of my solar production in the spring and fall and
most of the summer is EXCESS (when generated) since we don’t run AC except
on the hottest week or so of summer, and the only thing running is the
cycling of the Refrigerator. So almost all of our production is banked in
the grid via NET metering until we use it for the 12 hours of sundown and
almost continuously in the winter for heatpump heat.
Not allowing homeowners to contribute to the grid during peak solar days
when the utility needs it most is a travesty of utility greed and
illiteracy of the community politcians. (in my humble opinion…)
Bob
*From:* Bobby Keeland <keela...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:58 PM
*To:* Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
*Cc:* Robert Bruninga <bruni...@usna.edu>
*Subject:* Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)
Robert Burnings said "With GT, there is no such thing as wasted, or excess
power, its all converted to $$$ on your electric bill."
That all depends on your local electric company. When we produce more
electricity than we use the excess does go to the utility. We are not paid
for that electricity like people are in some other locations (States?). We
just get a VERY SLIGHT reduction in the cost of any electricity that we buy
from the utility at night.
To make matters worse our local electric utility is no longer installing
net meters when any customer adds solar panels to their home after January
1, 2020. I assume that anyone in my area that adds solar panels will have
the same situation that we had before we got net metering. Electricity that
we got from the utility we paid for. Any of our "excess electricity" that
we generated went to the utility, and we also paid for that. There is/was
any $$$$ in our case.
Dr. Bob Keeland
Louisiana
On Wed, May 27, 2020, 3:11 PM Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:
I disagree. When you make a $10,000 investment in a solar array, any sun
that falls on it and does not give you retail value in return for the
electricity is truly a wasted economic value. With GT, there is no such
thing as wasted, or excess power, its all converted to $$$ on your
electric bill. And that is what lead the Solar explosion about a decade
ago. No batteries, no maintenance, but economic power for life... at
Half the cost of the utility...
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's
Willie via EV wrote:
> BTW, I believe someone mentioned that the not produced power when an
> inverter "cuts back" must be dissipated somewhere as heat. I don't
> believe that is the case; I believe the inverter can just not produce
> the available power with no heat generation.
I agree. It would be a stupid design that burned it up as heat. Any sane
design would just turn off or throttle back the inverter. The energy isn't
"wasted" any more than the sunlight that falls on a sidewalk or street is
"wasted".
It does lead to an interesting question: If you have excess electric
power, what can you do with it to accomplish some useful purpose?
Provide free public EV charging? Light up a greenhouse to grow more food?
Run a freezer to store more food?
Lee Hart
--
When something bad happens, you have three choices: You can let it define
you; let it destroy you; or you can let it strengthen you.
-- Theodor Seuss Geisel
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Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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