Without energy storage, you actually need *more* energy infrastructure. - Mark
Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 28, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I disagree with that approach, but not because of subsidies. > > The problem is there is no incentive with that approach to build energy > storage. Without storage, we still need most of the existing energy > infrastructure, to account for periods when no one is producing. (Ok, I'm > exaggerating a bit.) And, if that infrastructure needs to be maintained, it > costs. That would ensure the subsidies go on indefinitely, to some degree. > Plus it still doesn't remove our dependence on fossil fuels. > > If we design an incentive program that includes a build-out of storage, then > it could work. > > Peri > > << Want to know about the effects of leaf blowers ? > https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "EVDL Administrator via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: "EVDL Administrator" <evp...@drmm.net> > Sent: 28-May-20 12:05:00 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics) > >>> On 28 May 2020 at 15:52, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: >>> >>> But to be fair, there is a cost to the utility >>> company since they get less revenue but still must maintain the same >>> level of infrastructure. Surely there's a better and fair way to do >>> this. >> >> This is where subsidies come in. If a utility agrees to buy back homemade >> energy at full retail from homeowners with documented RE sources, then >> either the state or federal government should pay them for doing it. That >> will encourage further RE adoption, reducing pollution and improving our >> energy independence. >> >> No doubt the utilities will overstate their expenses and make a profit on >> it. That's what they do. So it goes. Do it anyway. This is a public good. >> It's the sort of thing that we pay taxes for. Use them. >> >> Not that I think this will actually ever happen in the US, given our >> politics and priorities. Our governments are only allowed to subsidize >> traditional dirty energy producers. And are they ever generous about that >> kind of welfare! But we can dream. >> >> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >> EVDL Administrator >> >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >> reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my >> email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
