On 20 Jan 2021 at 17:59, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> I wonder if there's anything we can do to increase awareness of EVDL. 

Well, I suppose that some of the folks here who do (anti-)social media could 
mention it there, maybe by quoting from our discussions.  I wonder what kind 
of new members we might get from that.

I'm generally disinclined to do much promotion.  Hey, we have a website. 
What more do you want? :-)

I don't really hold with the standard corporate "grow or die" principle.  To 
be crunchy granola about it, services like this one grow and shrink 
organically with natural demand.  There's more demand for EV info than there 
was 20 years ago, but there are also more other sources.  

We're the one that uses email.  If you like email and/or don't like being 
tracked and spied on by big corporations, well, here we are.  I kind of feel 
like Buddhists do about their religion - when you're ready for us, you'll 
find us.  :-)  

I'm willing to listen to discussion about this, however.

> bet there are others that are like me: want to know about leading edge 
> activity and technical issues even though they (I) don't plan on doing 
> any EV tinkering personally.

Isn't that what the various EV news websites are supposed to do?   I mean 
Green Car Reports, Inside EVs, Clean Technica, Electrek, Future Car, and so 
on.  

Or maybe they're too focused on "Ooh, it's been restyled to look just like 
every other car on the road, and look at those exciting 19 inch wheels!"  
Pah.

> 
> Also, maybe a different basis for the forum. I like email but a lot of 
> people prefer other formats.

I'm getting some deja vu here. :-)  Back in the day, that was one of the 
EVDL topics that resurfaced often, along with AC vs DC drives, flooded vs 
AGM lead, and fast-short-range vs slow-long-range.  It always generated lots 
of discussion.

After 2008 when gasoline prices broke $4 a gallon in the US, we had a flurry 
of new memberships.  A lot of them would post a couple of initial questions 
and then inevitably we got, "Hey, how come y'all don't make this into 
something modern, like a forum?" - presumbly not realizing that forums are a 
webification of dialup BBSes from the 1980s. :-)

In fact we do have a forum gateway, as a feature of the archive.  It's aimed 
at casual and occasional users, and those who for whatever reason don't like 
email.  It's a bit clunky, but I'm working on that.   

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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