way past this comment at this point, but dug up the towing capacity of the PHEV 
Escape - rated for an impressive 3500 lbs.  Seems to be best in class.  RAV4 
was only 2500, Model Y was 3200.
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From: EV <[email protected]> on behalf of J Bills via EV 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:14 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>; Peri Hartman 
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y vs Escape PHEV

I can't seem to find the towing capacity of the Escape.  I don't know that I've 
ever seen a boat behind one of those...  might be worth double checking.

A lot of people are eyeballing that new Rav4 and comparing to the Escape and Y 
- and apparently it stacks up very well (to the escape especially).  Might be 
worth a look.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 09:22 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>; Peri Hartman 
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Cc: paul dove <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y vs Escape PHEV

I have a friend who owned an Escape PHEV. He loved it. He decided it was
getting to old and was in the market for a new car so I let him drive my Model 
3.
He sold his Escape and bought a 3. He loves it more than the Escape.

    On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:01:31 AM CDT, Peri Hartman via EV 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 Self driving == dream on :)

If you would buy the tesla in hopes that self driving would be available
soon enough for your wife to use, I think that is overly optimistic.

Beyond that, I think you are looking at two other primary factors.
First, since you are on EVDL, I presume you have strong ethics to use
and support EVs. Therefore, if you can afford an EV, I think you should
get one.

The other factor is cost. I think you can do the math. If you are mostly
going to use the new vehicle for short trips, the escape is probably
going to be way cheaper, at least for a 10 year cost. After that, you
may need to factor in expensive repairs for the escape and battery
degradation for the tesla.

Peri

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From: "Mark Hanson via EV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Mark Hanson" <[email protected]>
Sent: 16-Mar-21 7:57:34 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Tesla Y vs Escape PHEV

>
>
>Hi
>I’m having trouble deciding between a Ford Escape PHEV (37 miles EV range) 
>$32k-6.8kFed or a Tesla-Y $50k (316 Mile range)  The Tesla has auto driving 
>capability, can be added anytime for an additional $10k (As full capability is 
>added) since My wife has trouble driving now and won’t drive at all at night.  
>I drive her to work.  The Tesla has lower maintenance but is pricey.  I 
>ordered the Ford in October and thought it was made of Unobtanium but got a 
>dealer paper saying they’d make it iN Louisville April 19thweek. So I’d have 
>to cancel the Ford order if I bought the Tesla.  The only inconvenience with 
>the Tesla is all fast charging stations are along a wall so you’d have to 
>disconnect the boat to charge whereas gas pumps are pull through to 
>accommodate trailers.  That would probably just be an issue if trying to 
>trailer the boat a long distance (and the range half).
>Best regards
>Mark
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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