On 1 Apr 2021 at 16:42, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:

> The key fob is more reliable than a dead cell phone.

Yup.  And a lot easier to slip into your pocket, considering the ludicrous 
size of today's tablets-masquerading-as-mobile-phones.

>From what I've read, you can own and drive Teslas and other EVs without 
using a smartphone, though you might lose some features.  (In some EVs, some 
of the features may still be available from the car touchscreens.) 

But every now and then I read about some new prototype EV where there are 
few or no normal driving controls, with nearly everything controlled from 
your smartphone that you slip into a holder on the instrument panel while 
driving.  Eh, no thanks.  

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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