It's a far cry to run 10 volts of LED from a 14 volt DC supply compared to
running it from 120VAC.   The only "cheap" way to do it is how you see it
in the flickery cheap LED bulbs; a capacitive dropper.  These suck besides
having an atrocious power factor.

This leaves the only good solution to some sort of switching supply, and
anytime there is AC -> DC conversion, there has to be a filter capacitor,
which seems to be the weak link.

Sadly, 2 years is long enough for people to "forget", and who is going to
pay 2X more at the checkout for a longer lasting one?   A competing bulb
built with a high-quality power supply using film-based filtering just
isn't going to sell against one twice as cheap that uses low-quality
electrolytics.   The only place it does is in the commercial lighting
space.  Go look at some of the prices!

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:26 AM Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> > The resistor is far more reliable than the modern DC switching
> electronics
> > th ey put in consumer bulbs.
> > My LED bulbs throughout the house fail about one evey month or so (ouit
> of
> > 50 and not a single one has been due to the LED, but due to the voltage
> > regulating electronics.
> >
> > A series resistor is MUCH more reliable
>
> I've had the same experience. Despite the marketing claims, my LED
> lights only seem to last a few years. In every case, the LEDs themselves
> are still good; it's the electronics that have failed.
>
> I suppose they don't use a resistor because it would lower their
> advertised efficiency. And, they get hot. If the LED light is installed
> inside a fixture, that could be a problem.
>
> Lee
>
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