After 40 years in marine navigation and as a private pilot, I’ve learned two basic rules regarding autopilots:
1) trust your instruments, and 2) YOU are responsible for safe operation - not the instruments. Seems like autonomous driving promoters would have you believe end to end autonomous driving is the equivalent of going on Mr Toad ‘s Wild Ride in Disneyland. Anyone who buys into this notion is a patently unsafe driver and shouldn’t be allowed on the road. Glenn Sent from my iPad > On Jul 8, 2021, at 9:10 PM, paul dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is hearsay! Lots of people said their Toyota’s and Lexus suddenly > accelerated but this too was ruled as operator error or the accelerator > getting stuck in the carpet. Many people try to blame someone else for their > mistakes. > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 7:57 PM, mark hanson via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I use the base AutoPilot on my Y on long trips (appears to only work on > painted freeways) that relieves fatigue going down an extended highway but > *didn't* buy the full self driving feature for an additional $10K. I really > like the car now after the first week in March (steep learning curve, no > dealer info). The confusion is similar names for the full self driving > option in Tesla speak. > > > > A friend's wife totaled a model 3 on a country road (in full self driving > mode $10K extra) coming up to a non standard stop sign on a T and hit a > close building (brick wall). It was in an old town where a building was too > close to the road about 10' (not current set back requirements). Apparently > the software misses non standard situations. So the couple bought another > model 3 and also purchased the option self driving feature again. This time > my friend was driving on another country road (no center line) and in one of > the turns, the car hit a tree, totaled a second Tesla-3 - (two in two > years). He has some medical issues from the accident. > > > > I guess I'm old fashioned, I'm happy with an electric car that just runs J , > don't need all the extra foo-foo electric nose-pickers. I really like the > seamless long trip fast charging, pre-cools the pack to get 200KW in & zaps > it up quickly 20 minutes 20-80% by just putting in the destination address & > routes you to in between fast charging stations. The cord is short & have > to back up since the port is in the rear & if towing have to detach (unlike > the Chevy Bolt). But the Tesla is more comfortable on long trips. > > > > I suspect that the accident rate for the full self driving feature is > probably underreported though. > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > 184 Vista Lane > > Fincastle, VA 24090 > > 540-473-1248 phone, 540-816-0812 cell > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) > > UL Certified PV Installer > > My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh > > REEVA Demo: <http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0> http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210708/1795f47d/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210709/65955a1e/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
