On 7/8/21 11:10 PM, paul dove via EV wrote:
This is hearsay! Lots of people said their Toyota’s and Lexus suddenly 
accelerated but this too was ruled as operator error or the accelerator getting 
stuck in the carpet. Many people try to blame someone else for their mistakes.

After reading about using AP on a road without center stripe, that was my impression also.


A friend's wife totaled a model 3 on a country road (in full self driving
mode $10K extra) coming up to a non standard stop sign on a T and  hit a
close building (brick wall).  It was in an old town where a building was too
close to the road about 10' (not current set back requirements).  Apparently
the software misses non standard situations.  So the couple bought another
model 3 and also purchased the option self driving feature again.  This time
my friend was driving on another country road (no center line) and in one of
the turns, the car hit a tree, totaled a second Tesla-3 - (two in two
years).  He has some medical issues from the accident.

A Tesla with publicly released software (making no comment of software out in beta testing), AP can not be started on a road without center striping. Once AP is started (on a center stripe section of road) it will continue to do the best it can if the center strip disappears. My experience is that it does a pretty good job of staying on the correct side of the road and dealing with traffic even without a center stripe. This suspicious misrepresentation calls into question the veracity of all the accounts.

As seems often the case, misreporting is likely/certain. Add to that the comments made by those with zero AP (or other self driving system) experience and you have a cluster <somethingorother> and spreading of Tesla FUD. Right here in EVDL where the conversion from ICE to BEV has been a crusade for decades. Some here just can not accept that it was done by Tesla. I can not understand the anti-Tesla bias.

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