…and that’s the cheap one.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 1:23 PM, paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have one too but their riders are very high starting at $5,000. 
> 
> On Sunday, August 15, 2021, 3:37:06 PM CDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV 
> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> My current (non-riding) mower is made by Greenworks. I love it. They have 
> moved to lithium ion battery technology. They also have at least one 
> commercial riding mower. You might want to have a look.
> 
> I like this company because the CEO is not only a nice guy, but is a 
> motivated guy who wants all yard equipment to go electric. He has started 
> from scratch and works his tail off. I give him credit for a movement that is 
> gaining steam for commercial lawn companies to use electric yard equipment, 
> and for cities to spec them in contracting out services.
> 
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 15, 2021, at 10:06 AM, fred via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> > 
> >  I too have been disappointed in the lack of lithium-chemistry battery 
> > electric mowers. Many moons ago, we purchased an Ariens Amp electric rider. 
> > Twenty tiny VRSLA batteries (4s5p) stuffed under the seat. The mower has 
> > been severely criticized in review from past times, although for wrong 
> > reasons, in my opinion.
> > In the Florida heat, the pack managed to last three years. The replacement 
> > US$600.00 pack lasted about a year and a half. Thanks to a list member, my 
> > mower now sports a half-module from a Volt.
> > I'm aware from my lead-acid Xebra days that fifty percent DoD is safest, so 
> > the mower got equipped with a CycleAnalyst, high current version. That 
> > meant I could baby the lead-acid pack, but it still could not tolerate the 
> > heat of the day or the heat of the storage. It turned into a 
> > three-charge-cycles-to-mow-a-quarter-acre mower.
> > Having the Volt half-module means I can get two runs, possibly three from a 
> > single charge, but I am babying the pack even now by not max-charging it 
> > and bringing the battery inside after each use and also no charging it 
> > until the day before it is needed. I had to purchase a full module for 
> > US$600 but that means I have twice the capacity (but can't fit them both 
> > inside) so I alternate the batteries. To further ensure long happy life, I 
> > purchased an expensive charger that does individual cell balancing and the 
> > Volt battery came with a balancing cable! I expect the modules will outlast 
> > me.
> > Any EV owner knows how the quiet is the best part of the vehicle (opinion, 
> > of course), but the Amp really screwed that up. They used what I suspect is 
> > the technology they knew and put a hydrostatic transmission in this thing. 
> > That means the traction motor runs constantly to keep the system 
> > pressurized, a complete waste of energy. Hydraulics are not known to be 
> > particularly efficient in power transfer. The two systems alone amount for 
> > eighty percent of the noise. One neighbor told me that he was surprised I 
> > had a fuel powered mower, after hearing me start it.
> > If I had to replace the Amp, I'd look for a lithium version I could afford, 
> > or consider immediately to replace the lead pack.
> > 
> > 
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