At present the system is really only a fancy driver assist. At times it may look like it is 'self driving' without human driver input, even for minutes at a time, but if anything goes wonky (road markings, weather, sensors, software), it can very quickly abort with a 'take over immediately' message. The system relies on the human driver to be paying close attention at all times as the fallback. There is plenty of room for improvement with regard to failure mode handling, some of which may need additional software and/or hardware redundancy.
The safest condition in which to use the system is on familiar controlled access freeways with stable traffic flow conditions. Definitely not near unusual areas, which include walkers and bikers, construction zones and vehicles on the side of the road, or sharp curves, or any areas you've seen it have problems in the past. Narrow lanes with nearby obstacles are risky. Highways without railings near cliffs are risky. In other words, it is safest to only use it where there will be enough space and time for you to react, and regain control, if the system suddenly decides to 'let go of the wheel'. Treat the system as a novice driver that needs supervision and assistance, and who may get confused when things aren't exactly 'by the book'. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 11:16 Peter Eckhoff via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > I test drove a Model Y yesterday and I engaged Auto Pilot. At a major > intersection, I was turning left. AutoPilot couldn't fine the turn > lane lines and threw up a bunch of warning messages, the wheel > vibrated as a signal it starts for not staying in line. The lines had > worn away. I had my hands on the wheel and I took over. I was > expecting a reaction but the sequence and speed of events was still > "unexpected". The messages and signal vibration all happened > seemingly at once. > > I'm not thrilled with AutoPilot. It's good but not fully reliable. > I've always thought car systems should be designed to make us better > and safer drivers. > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:11 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > that's what i don't understand. if you're paying attention, how can > autopilot cause an accident ? > > > > to compare it to aviation autopilot, the pilot can "over muscle" the > autopilot easily. if that were to fail for some reason, the autopilot can > be quickly disabled. > > > > in other words, if you're driving and auto pilot starts to send you out > of your lane, it should be trivial to correct it back to where you want to > be. > > > > what an i not understanding ? > > > > peri > > > > << Do leaf blowers annoy you ? http://quietcleanseattle.org >> > > ________________________________ > > From: jim--- via EV <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27 > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NHTSA to investigate Tesla / Emergency Vehicle > Crashes > > > > > > > The US government has opened a formal investigation into Tesla´s > driver- > > > assistance system known as Autopilot after a series of collisions with > > > parked emergency vehicles. > > Whether there is an issue that makes it more likely for a Tesla on > AutoPilot to drive into emergency lights, I wonder how many of those > crashes would have been prevented if the driver was paying attention and > had their hands on the wheel so they could override the AP? As I recall > (and I don't have a Tesla), the driver is required to keep his / her hands > on the wheel at all times. > > 73 > > ----- > > Jim Walls - K6CCC > > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to [email protected] > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210818/a0d29de2/attachment.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to [email protected] > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210818/b006a52a/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
