Thanks a bunch Phil!
That’s good to know about the Tesla so I won’t fret over that.  I just asked 
the great god google on the Bolt and on Reddit was posted that the Bolt wakes 
up the dc-dc converter when the 12V battery gets low (about 12V) but if the 
traction battery is below 40% DOD then it does *not* keep the 12 V battery 
charged.  So sounds like it should be ok most of the time while sitting at an 
airport etc for weeks.  I guess they didn’t think of doing that on the Leaf.  
I’ll recheck the ghost load with the KeyFob away from the car.  Might get 
another solar panel float charger for the Leaf.  
The Leaf and Bolt appear to have a robust dc-dc converter for running about 10A 
120V inverter (100A on 12 V with short jumpers) when the power hours out.  The 
Tesla’s for some odd reason won’t do that or at least in the manual says bad 
things will happen if you put a high current load on the 12V battery/ dc-dc 
converter as it’s monitoring for fault currents.  
Stay Charged,
Mark 

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On Dec 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, (-Phil-) <[email protected]> wrote:


125ma seems too high on your Leaf.  But if you disconnect the 12v to insert an 
ammeter, you may need to allow time for the car to settle back to it's sleep 
state.  Also be sure to keep the key fob WELL AWAY from the car.  If it's in 
your pocket during the measurement, there's your problem.

On the Model Y, VCFront is responsible for monitoring the 12v battery.  If it 
detects the battery needs a charge it will ask the BMS to fire up the HV and 
then the whole car will wake up, including coolant pumps, etc.   It will then 
complete the full charge of the 12v, then go back to sleep.

I have no experience with the Bolt.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:06 AM Mark Hanson via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi folks
> I measured the ghost load on the Leaf last night at 125Ma and 160ma with the 
> CarChip plugged into the OBD2 to monitor speed (since in 96’ a cop wanted to 
> through me in jail for a year on a fake speeding ticket on my ElectroMetro 
> conversion).  I put the new battery on a supply set to 14.2V the evening and 
> then back to 13.6 float and noticed this morning was drawing 300ma charge 
> when I pulled it off.  Probably have to put it on a float tender or solar 
> panel like I did my truck.  
> I also have a Bolt 20’ and Tesla Y 21’. Does anyone know if they have high 
> ghost loads that the dc converter doesn’t take care of by periodically 
> turning on?
> Stay Charged
> Mark in Roanoke Va
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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