I can't imagine that basing the decision making primarily on the fog
lines and other road paint is a good way to implement FSD. It seems that
the primary road and object identification should be through pattern
recognition of the roadway itself, using machine learning. Perhaps this
is, in fact, how Tesla implemented FSD. But from the discussions, it
sounds like they look mostly for the paint. Is that really true ?
Peri
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From: "Bill Dennis via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Bill Dennis" <[email protected]>
Sent: 08-Feb-22 06:44:45
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling
I was driving on the I-210 outside of Los Angeles this weekend, which is under
construction. They've shifted the lanes, but didn't do a good job of blacking
out the old lane markers. So even as a human driver, I found it quite
difficult to figure out where the lanes actually were. I was wondering if
anyone has tried using autopilot through that stretch and how it made out.
Thanks,
Bill
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From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 4:11 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: paul dove
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling
I have never seen Autopilot drop out in 3 years of driving a Tesla.
On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 10:33:32 PM CST, Michael Ross via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Human vision has to assemble an image mostly from memory. The
contemporaneous data is overwritten on the remembered image to update and
define motion for the cortex. The optic nerve only sends changes in an
image. It is a differentiator not a frame writer. This is why we can see a
rope as a snake and other reflexive mistakes.
It makes sense to me that a machine vision system would apply similar
logistics and tactics. Why send millions of pixels that have not changed
significantly?
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:17 PM mark hanson via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Peri etc,
I don't recall a warning when it glitched and dropped out. It has made a
bing sound (from the speakers) when it gets confused with large tractor
trailers and drops out. It's odd that it has trouble identifying large
tractor trailers (image jumps around a lot frequently) but small cars
appear
stable in the screen. I just bop the right stick twice again and it
resumes, no biggie on a straight highway. It doesn't happen that often,
only a couple times going to Florida and once up to Pennsylvania. We're
heading down to the Keys Febuary 11th , so I'll make a note of the
glitches/frequency.
One thing that's more annoying though, sometimes it gets confused with a
blowing leaf or clump of snow etc and flashes red with a loud noise out of
the loud speakers (my wife hates that "feature"), makes you jump when
there's nothing there. Them says "taking control of steering wheel" and
feel a little force this way or that which I just ignore/overpower.
I wish I could turn off all this "fluffy" stuff. Guess I'm used to simple
conversions and my Chevy Bolt & Leaf.
Best regards,
Mark
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 21:09:18 +0000
From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling
Stops
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Does autopilot give any sort of warning when it drops out ? It seems that
it
should do something that grabs you attention instantly, e.g.
vibrate the steering wheel or even a mild shock.
Peri
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