OK, I'll take your word for it that timed charging isn't a good solution for you Peri. But perhaps the suggestion could be helpful for the OP, who BTW seemed more concerned with timed preconditioning.

Using timers via the car itself has not been a problem for us (2013 SV). We only set the charge or conditioning timers if we need one or both of them, but turn them off after a drive if we don't need them again. We do it from the car itself while we're in it, not via an app.

Charging overnight and charging again after a morning drive would not be a problem for us, with or without using a timer. And again, no internet connection or app required.

BTW there's a switch on the dash that forces the car to to start charging immediately even if a timer is set. Perhaps that may help. Here's a demonstration:

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZF0nKHdOZE

Cheers,
 -Jamie



On 5/18/22 11:00 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
I tried the timed charging a long time ago. Bad idea. If you set it to charge overnight, for example, but need to go out in the afternoon after a morning drive, you'll be in trouble ! That is, you have to reprogram the damned thing each time you want to charge. There's no way (at least that I'm aware of) to override. It's plain idiotic.

Peri

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Another option, which has been useful for us, is to use the LEAF's built-in separate timed settings for both charging and preconditioning. With those settings an internet connection is not required.

Cheers,
 -Jamie


On 5/18/22 10:31 PM, Otmar Lists Account via EV wrote:
Preconditioning, especially while charging is a fantastic benefit.

Sadly the Nissan Connect for Leaf was on 2G cellular, and there was an update to 3G, but now that is going away as well and there seems to be no 4G LTE upgrade.

Alternatively, people are using the OVMS to provide those functions and more with an app.

https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_nissanleaf/docs/index.html <https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_nissanleaf/docs/index.html>

-Otmar

On May 18, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

The Leaf has an app that runs on your cellphone that can allow it to pre-heat or pre-cool the car interior while it is plugged in. You can also set a time to do this manually from the dash. Makes a HUGE difference in range if you can use this feature.

Easier than defeating the heater somehow. You also _really_ need the heater and/or air conditioning to defog the windshield. The blower alone just doesn't do it.

Bill D.

On 5/19/2022 8:48 AM, redscooter via EV wrote:
  on youtube there some  switch to modify so the heat does  not come on just the fan only .
My 2011 needs all the power it can. any exp with this ?
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