Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient. Why
does that matter ? At freeway speeds that means more range per kWh. And
that means a smaller battery to be competitive. And that means less
weight, which also increases range.
Cd
Tesla 3: 0.23
Tesla Y: 0.23
Tesla X: 0.24
Subaru Solterra: 0.28
Toyota bZ4X: 0.26
Audi e-tron: 0.28
volvo xc40: 0.34
ford mustang: 0.30
Chevy Bolt EUV: 0.31
Huyndai Ioniq 5: 0.29
Kia EV6: 0.28
Mazda MX-30: 0.29
Nissan Ariya: 0.30
Volkswagen ID.4 : 0.28
I wish Tesla would come out with an off road model. One that has
hydraulic (or servo) suspension lifters so that it can cruise low on the
freeway and then lift high for avoiding rocks and ruts on mountain
roads. Add to that tires with enough sidewall for same. In spite of
Musk, when they do, "I'm down."
Peri
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On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote:
I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without
Tesla and Musk. That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward
both.
Hmm, I thought I'd answered that in past posts. Sorry if it wasn't clear.
I'll try again, and I hope that others will have some thoughts too.
I'm not a researcher, but I suspect that the negativity toward Tesla EVs
themselves results in large part from their over-sold autopilot.
Some owners believe Musk when he says the car is self-driving, so they do
stupid stuff and get into wrecks. Tesla being the new kid in town, and high
profile, the news media are all over it, so everybody hears about it.
Reliability problems may also be a factor. Consumer Reports says that the
Model X was dead last for reliability in their 2021 survey. :-(
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The negativity toward Musk is also easy to explain. He's a truly despicable
person, arguably a sociopath. He has no filters, and he acts out in public
like a sixth grade class clown demanding attention.
Several years ago, a friend of mine mentioned that she admired the Tesla S
but couldn't afford one. Recently she was talking about getting a new (or
newer) car and I asked if she was considering buying a Model 3. "From THAT
man? Oh, *GOD* no. No, no, no."
I see similar reactions all over the web. There are thousands of people
who'd love to have a Tesla, if they didn't have to give some of their money
to Musk to get it.
Those are anecdotes, and as any statistician will tell you, the plural of
anecdote is not data. So here's some data for you.
A recent survey found that only 25% of Democrats thought Tesla was
trustworthy as a company. The trust level from Republicans, who aren't
known as big EV buyers, was actually HIGHER at 27%.
The main point here is the percentage, not the politics. I remember the
raised eyebrows some years back when a survey found that only 43% of
Americans had a positive impression of the US automakers as a group.
And now we have ~26% trust for Tesla. Yikes.
But Tesla sales keep rising! I'd argue that that's *despite* Musk's and
Tesla's negative images. I'm pretty sure that it's not because of them.
Tesla DOES make really good EVs. You can tell, because their owners seem to
love them despite their reliability problems, and autopilot's attempts to
murder them.
Also, here in the US, the other automakers aren't really trying, so the
competition is feeble.
FWIW, in Europe, where other automakers ARE trying, VW is hot on Tesla's
heels in sales. They were less than 1% behind them for 2021. If you count
Skoda EV sales, VW bested Tesla by 26%. It will be very interesting to see
how 2022 shakes out there.
Sorry, I've wandered off topic here. My point is that there's no mystery at
all about the negative attitudes toward Tesla and Elon Musk. They're caused
by Tesla and Elon Musk.
David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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