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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Evan Tuer)
   2. New York Times special section with article on Chevrolet Volt
      (Beth Silverman)
   3. Re: New York Times special section with article on Chevrolet
      Volt (Marty Hewes)
   4. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Bill & Nancy)
   5. Re: Motor housing machining (Roland Wiench)
   6. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Bill Dube)
   7. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Cor van de Water)
   8. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Cor van de Water)
   9. 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ? (Jeff Mccabe)
  10. Re: 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ? (Jeff Major)
  11. Re: 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ? (Jeff Mccabe)
  12. The Ferrari Segway: 0 to arcane in 60 seconds (Lawrence Rhodes)
  13. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Lawrence Rhodes)
  14. Re: Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
      Butane. (Lawrence Rhodes)
  15. Re: Motor housing machining (Bob Rice)
  16. Re: 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ? (Jack Murray)
  17. KillaCycle gets Nearly 300k Views! (Bill Dube)
  18. 100% charge voltage of batteries (Brian Staffanson)
  19. Re: Zivan NG1 finish charge voltage too high? (Roger Stockton)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:11 +0100
From: "Evan Tuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,      "Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 10/24/07, Lawrence Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is
> for Butane not Battery.

Butane?!  I think he's making that up - Butane by itself isn't used as
a road fuel, although it may be a component of LPG.  So I seriously
doubt there is a B classification for it.

Go to the next clerk.



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:48:46 -0700
From: "Beth Silverman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] New York Times special section with article on
        Chevrolet Volt
To: <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Today's New York Times has a special section on cars called "Getting to
Green"  
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/autospecial/  

which includes an article on the Volt.  
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/automobiles/autospecial/24VOLT.html?_r
=1&ref=autospecial&oref=slogin  


Beth Silverman  
Azure Dynamics



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:22:19 -0500
From: "Marty Hewes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] New York Times special section with article on
        Chevrolet       Volt
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

I intend to go to the Chicago Auto Show and tell the people in the GM 
display that I will not buy a GM car until I can get a volt, and I'll offer 
them a down payment.  Nothing else they build is environmentally or 
politically sound.  If enough people say it, it ought to raise the priority 
level of getting the Volt out.

Marty

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From: "Beth Silverman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [EVDL] New York Times special section with article on Chevrolet 
Volt


> Today's New York Times has a special section on cars called "Getting to
> Green"
> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/autospecial/
>
> which includes an article on the Volt.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/automobiles/autospecial/24VOLT.html?_r
> =1&ref=autospecial&oref=slogin
>
>
> Beth Silverman
> Azure Dynamics
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:29:38 -0700
From: Bill & Nancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: Lawrence Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Mine is classed as AE.
Bill

Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
> The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is
> for Butane not Battery.  Anyone got their pink slip handy.  Mine is in the
> safe deposit box.  They want to see my car before issuing stickers.
> Lawrence Rhodes..
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:44:39 -0600
From: "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor housing machining
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Yes, JB Weld will work too. I just got done building up a shaft bushing and 
machining it for a press fit.  It states a temperature rating of 600 F.

Clean the area you want to applied this compound with a fine stainless wire 
brush, then clean it with epoxy thinner and use the longer drying time JB 
Weld instead of the 5 minute stuff.  This will give you a longer spread out 
time for a smoother job.

Roland


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave cover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor housing machining


> I just noticed our good old friend JB Weld brags up to 300F on their
> website, but I thought I saw 600F on the package.
>
> On 10/24/07, Dewey, Jody R ATC COMNAVAIRLANT, N422G5G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you are worried about the bondo holding up to the heat, use LABMETAL.
> > It is mainly used for powdercoating since it is a bondo with metal in
> > it.  It is made to withstand temperatures of 400 plus so it will work
> > fine on your housing.
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:54:21 -0600
From: Bill Dube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on Butane.
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Take it down to the inspection station and have fun watching them try 
to find the tail pipe.

At 08:50 AM 10/24/2007, you wrote:
>On 10/24/07, Lawrence Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is
> > for Butane not Battery.
>
>Butane?!  I think he's making that up - Butane by itself isn't used as
>a road fuel, although it may be a component of LPG.  So I seriously
>doubt there is a B classification for it.
>
>Go to the next clerk.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:02:16 -0700
From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,      "Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>,   "Electric Vehicle Discussion
        List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Lawrence,

My US Electricar S10 (factory converted Chevy) shows on
the registration papers a USELE with classification 'E'
for Electric, no smog required.
If you can't get the clerk to properly classify it, as
for his or her supervisor to assist.
I hope they do not make you go through technical inspection
(again) before titling it as 'E' but if necessary, that may
be a way to get this corrected?

Which type of car is this?

Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:44 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on Butane.

The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is for 
Butane not Battery.  Anyone got their pink slip handy.  Mine is in the safe 
deposit box.  They want to see my car before issuing stickers.
Lawrence Rhodes..

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:02:16 -0700
From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,      "Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>,   "Electric Vehicle Discussion
        List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Lawrence,

My US Electricar S10 (factory converted Chevy) shows on
the registration papers a USELE with classification 'E'
for Electric, no smog required.
If you can't get the clerk to properly classify it, as
for his or her supervisor to assist.
I hope they do not make you go through technical inspection
(again) before titling it as 'E' but if necessary, that may
be a way to get this corrected?

Which type of car is this?

Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water     IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +1 408 542 5225    VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
Fax: +1 408 731 3675    eFAX: +31-87-784-1130
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:44 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on Butane.

The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is for 
Butane not Battery.  Anyone got their pink slip handy.  Mine is in the safe 
deposit box.  They want to see my car before issuing stickers.
Lawrence Rhodes..

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Mccabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ?
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 In my ever searching quest to ride my Ev of useless
weight.Is it possible to make the field coil housing
which is cast iron now, out of billet aluminum?. Jim
yours ears on out their.
 I searched the archives and didn't find any hits on
the idea.
 I have both NC milling equipment at my disposal and a
large engine lathe that I would use?
Thanks, Jeff McCabe
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/736
 



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ?
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Jeff,

Yeah, you could make the housing out of aluminum, but
your motor would be crap.  The housing or frame or
yoke is an important part of the magnetic circuit,
called the back iron.  It needs to be ferrous
material.  And I suspect, your motor has a rolled
steel frame, not cast iron.  Even AC motors, which
often have an aluminum housing, have steel stators
with back iron inside.  So that heavy motor housing is
not "useless weight".

Regards,

Jeff M


--- Jeff Mccabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  In my ever searching quest to ride my Ev of useless
> weight.Is it possible to make the field coil housing
> which is cast iron now, out of billet aluminum?. Jim
> yours ears on out their.
>  I searched the archives and didn't find any hits on
> the idea.
>  I have both NC milling equipment at my disposal and
> a
> large engine lathe that I would use?
> Thanks, Jeff McCabe
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/736
>  
> 
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Mccabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ?
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Jeff,
 Sounds like I have to look elsewheres for more
weight!
Thanks, 
Jeff McCabe


--- Jeff Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Yeah, you could make the housing out of aluminum,
> but
> your motor would be crap.  The housing or frame or
> yoke is an important part of the magnetic circuit,
> called the back iron.  It needs to be ferrous
> material.  And I suspect, your motor has a rolled
> steel frame, not cast iron.  Even AC motors, which
> often have an aluminum housing, have steel stators
> with back iron inside.  So that heavy motor housing
> is
> not "useless weight".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff M
> 
> 
> --- Jeff Mccabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  In my ever searching quest to ride my Ev of
> useless
> > weight.Is it possible to make the field coil
> housing
> > which is cast iron now, out of billet aluminum?.
> Jim
> > yours ears on out their.
> >  I searched the archives and didn't find any hits
> on
> > the idea.
> >  I have both NC milling equipment at my disposal
> and
> > a
> > large engine lathe that I would use?
> > Thanks, Jeff McCabe
> > http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/736
> >  
> > 
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:27:34 -0700
From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] The Ferrari Segway: 0 to arcane in 60 seconds
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    "Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"


    Posted by: "Remy Chevalier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cleannewworld
    Date: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:45 pm ((PDT))

The Ferrari Segway: 0 to arcane in 60 seconds
Posted Oct 22nd 2007 by Thomas Ricker

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/22/the-ferrari-segway-0-to-arcane-in-60-seconds




Believe it or not there it is, the Ferrari-branded Segway. It's not any
faster than the regular PT i2 and certainly won't help to convince the
authorities to repeal any sidewalk-safety laws. It is red, however, and
features a conspicuous Cavallino Rampante badge for all your subordinates to
see. All yours Mr. PoloPants for just $12,000.

[Via Sybarites, thanks RV]

Segway have teamed up with Ferrari to release a special limited edition
version of their i2 Personal Transporter. Ferrari have used Segway's as a
transportation method around their Maranello factory for sometime now, the
Segway PT i2 Ferrari Limited Edition comes in Ferrari's signature color, red
and features the Scuderia Ferrari logo at the base. It has a range of almost
forty kilometers off one battery charge and can be easily stowed in the
trunk of a car for longer journeys. It comes with a handlebar bag made of
leather.



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:37:42 -0700
From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

So AE (alternative energy) E (exempt, electric) & B (battery)  What the heck
is the Cal DMV up to.  Lawrence Rhodes.....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill & Nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Electric Vehicle
Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
Butane.


> Mine is classed as AE.
> Bill
>
> Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
> > The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification
is
> > for Butane not Battery.  Anyone got their pink slip handy.  Mine is in
the
> > safe deposit box.  They want to see my car before issuing stickers.
> > Lawrence Rhodes..
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:39:55 -0700
From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running
        on      Butane.
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

The car is the electric Aspire.  Which used to be a 97 but was down graded
to a 94 after a SUV rear ended it.  I gotta go to my safe deposit box and
get the title & sort this out.  Lawrence Rhodes.....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Electric Vehicle
Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on
Butane.


Lawrence,

My US Electricar S10 (factory converted Chevy) shows on
the registration papers a USELE with classification 'E'
for Electric, no smog required.
If you can't get the clerk to properly classify it, as
for his or her supervisor to assist.
I hope they do not make you go through technical inspection
(again) before titling it as 'E' but if necessary, that may
be a way to get this corrected?

Which type of car is this?

Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water     IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Lawrence Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:44 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EVDL] Dopey California DMV registered my car as running on Butane.

The clerk at DMV says my car must be smogged.  That the B clasification is
for Butane not Battery.  Anyone got their pink slip handy.  Mine is in the
safe deposit box.  They want to see my car before issuing stickers.
Lawrence Rhodes..

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:15:20 -0400
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor housing machining
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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        reply-type=original


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave cover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Motor housing machining


>I just noticed our good old friend JB Weld brags up to 300F on their
> website, but I thought I saw 600F on the package.
>
> On 10/24/07, Dewey, Jody R ATC COMNAVAIRLANT, N422G5G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you are worried about the bondo holding up to the heat, use LABMETAL.
>> It is mainly used for powdercoating since it is a bondo with metal in
>> it.  It is made to withstand temperatures of 400 plus so it will work
>> fine on your housing.
>    Hi EVerybody;

     IF you are running temps like this you have OTHER issues, beyond a 
pretty paint job!Hell! My ADV rarely runs too hot to put  yur hand on it!

     Bob
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 9" adv  Aluminum feild coil housing ?
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

What someone needs to figure out is how to make
lightweight materials magnetic, that would be a huge
revolution.  Saw on TV they actually achieved a
magnetic plastic, but at close to absolute zero temp
or something  very hard to duplicate in the real
world.
Jack

--- Jeff Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Yeah, you could make the housing out of aluminum,
> but
> your motor would be crap.  The housing or frame or
> yoke is an important part of the magnetic circuit,
> called the back iron.  It needs to be ferrous
> material.  And I suspect, your motor has a rolled
> steel frame, not cast iron.  Even AC motors, which
> often have an aluminum housing, have steel stators
> with back iron inside.  So that heavy motor housing
> is
> not "useless weight".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff M
> 
> 
> --- Jeff Mccabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  In my ever searching quest to ride my Ev of
> useless
> > weight.Is it possible to make the field coil
> housing
> > which is cast iron now, out of billet aluminum?.
> Jim
> > yours ears on out their.
> >  I searched the archives and didn't find any hits
> on
> > the idea.
> >  I have both NC milling equipment at my disposal
> and
> > a
> > large engine lathe that I would use?
> > Thanks, Jeff McCabe
> > http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/736
> >  
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > For subscription options, see
> > http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
> > 
> 
> 
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:27:50 -0600
From: Bill Dube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] KillaCycle gets Nearly 300k Views!
To: Lawrence Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        Electric Vehicle
        Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Listers,

        I was amazed to see that the KillaCycle video that Steve Ciciora put 
up on YouTube is up to 299,333
views! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDHJNG2PngQ

        Bill Dube'



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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:29:17 -0600
From: "Brian Staffanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] 100% charge voltage of batteries
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I just want to verify, that a lead-acid battery fully charged, will be
sitting at 2.11 volts per cell.  This is 6.33 volts for a 6 volt battery and
12.66 volts for 12 volt batteries.  Would this be correct for all lead acid,
whether gell, flooded, and agm?

Thanks,
Brian


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:41:15 -0700
From: Roger Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Zivan NG1 finish charge voltage too high?
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David Nelson wrote:

> I have a Zivan NG1 on a 48V system with 6 Trojan T-875s. I
> also just installed a PakTrakr and see that on charging the
> PakTrakr indicates an overcharging condition on 4 of my 6
> batteries. I recorded the individual battery voltages right
> near the end of the charging cycle.
> The voltages were 10.5, 10.4, 10.2, 10.8, 10.8, 10.6 with a
> pack voltage of 63.4v. This is higher than what Trojan's
> website says. The charger has a sticker saying that it is for
> a 48V system with T-875 or equivalent batteries. Should I be
> concerned with this? Should I send the charger back to Zivan
> for testing/reprograming?

The voltages are OK.  10.8V is 2.7V/cell, which is high, but not at all 
unbelievable near the end of a charge cycle.

If you haven't yet done so, doublecheck your PakTrakr readings against a good 
DMM.  The PakTrakr only measures to 0.1V and I've found that the readings can 
vary by +/-0.1-0.2V from channel to channel and monitor to monitor (with the 
6-battery monitors; the 8-battery model may be different).

Cheers,

Roger.



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