Also, TCO usually means "we couldn't find any other way to justify
the cost of our product, and we're taking a beating in the market
right now, so we made up* this totally arbitrary calculation that
shows our competitor as being harder to use / weird to set up / too
* aka. "paid a company to make charts"
At least that's what usually happens when Microsoft starts touting
TCO numbers. ;)
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On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
I had mentioned this Sharepoint cost calculator link when adding
to Francesco's blog post comparing Plone and Sharepoint too.
Besides the cost factor, it couldn't hurt you to re-read his
(two-part?) blog post regarding the Plone vs. Sharepoint
I had helped a for-profit university evaluate commercial CMS
tools a few years ago and they chose RedDot. At the time, the
price for their .Net-based CMS plus their Java-based personalized
portal delivery engine, plus a 'Quick Start' where a small
portion of the website was themed/implemented was to run about
$330K in US$.
Teamsite was in that evaluation as well, and their offering is
broken up into many modules, so it's harder to compare, but this
client would have paid a bit more for what they needed from IWOV
than what the RedDot (now OpenText) price was, even. Probably
not a lot more, though.
Seems like the bigger players such as
Autonomy/Interwoven/Teamsite, OpenText/Vignette, etc. are in the
350-500K US$ range by the time you buy licenses for not only your
production servers, but also development and/or staging.
Not to mention that the per-hour integrator rates I was seeing
were in the $175+/hr range US$, which is 30-40% more than most
Plone shops will charge.
Plus, you should build a comparison that looks at year 2, 3, etc.
With the commercial tools, the client will be paying 20%/year of
license cost just to keep up with patches/upgrades, no on-site
services, just emergency support, access to the online knowledge
base, forums, etc.
If you do a 3-year Total Cost of Ownership comparison, I can't
imagine the other tools, even Sharepoint, coming close to Plone
on a financial basis, but others would disagree.
Nate Aune wrote:
i don't know about Reddot or Teamsite, but the Sharepoint
calculator can be used to determine the total cost of
ownership if you have to buy all the user licenses and
software licenses for the other dependent Microsoft products.
found via Cynapse blog:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Virginia Choy
Does anyone have any documentation about total cost of
or general cost comparisons between deploying Plone,
Teamsite,, RedDot or any other proprietary enterprise
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