Thank you, that's an interesting alternate approach! I will share that with the staff here.
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WASH your hands often. ________________________________ From: Evergreen-general <[email protected]> on behalf of Jen VanderHeide <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 10:59 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [External] Re: [Evergreen-general] OPAC Request a Library Card Form CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless you verify. Send all suspicious email as an attachment to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Not sure how helpful this is, but we ended up building an online form that allows us to capture the cosigner information: https://www.grpl.org/get-a-card/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.grpl.org/get-a-card/__;!!HYmSToo!Jr1o5usZ7OFHFlCrxRM37tf-ktNGbmaQynI7QcFmfRcp7NFCPy2hWjJjjqPkJ7DhVWiQ$> One of the nice features of the form is that it allows a co-signer to register for multiple juvenile cards at once. It also allows users to upload identity and address documents so that we can then issue and mail the cards. Jen -- Jen Vander Heide Circulation Services Supervisor Grand Rapids Public Library Main Library | 111 Library St NE | 49503 616-988-5402 x5452<tel:16169885402,5452> www.grpl.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.grpl.org__;!!HYmSToo!Jr1o5usZ7OFHFlCrxRM37tf-ktNGbmaQynI7QcFmfRcp7NFCPy2hWjJjjqPkJwNiFzYI$> On 10/8/2020 7:33 PM, Laura Burk wrote: We use 13. I think it's based more on the rules of internet marketing to kids under 13 (who aren't even supposed to have email addresses). We let 13+ get cards for themselves in person as well. (Public library here) Laura On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 6:56 PM Scott Tracey <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I thought it was under 18? Scott Tracey Assistant Director West Lafayette Public Library 208 West Columbia Street West Lafayette, IN 47906 (765) 743-2261 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 6:43 PM Diane Disbro <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: In our public library district, parents must apply for cards for children under age sixteen. Anyone under age sixteen cannot use our online registration since we can't verify parental permission (and financial responsibility). Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext. 110 On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 4:09 PM Patrick, Irene <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We've got a question. We've been using the Request a Library Card form in the Evergreen OPAC. We have customized it a bit. I recently received a question about adding the Parent/Guardian field to the registration form. Apparently there is a new project that will be happening in our department, and staff are expecting an influx of registrations for juveniles. So they wanted to include the Parent/Guardian field on the online registration. I asked our consortium if they could add this field to our form, and after investigating, they reported that they could not do this. Their explanation: "We tried adding that field to your registration page on the development version of your site, but the change caused a system failure when we tried to create a patron. We looked into the reason why we were unable to add this field and here's what we came up with: When someone goes to register a card through this interface, the results are sent to a database table called "User Stage". This table closely mirrors the "User" table so that when a staff member registers the "User Stage", the data is dumped directly from this table into the "User" table. However, updates to the "User" table don't always make it onto "User Stage", and that is the case with the guardian field. The only way to get this to work properly would be to change the schema of the database to add this piece of data on the "User Stage" table. " This is surprising to us. We are not a public library, and have had few requests to register juveniles so far. But since Evergreen was designed for public libraries, we were quite surprised to find that we can't easily add the Parent/Guardian field to the OPAC registration form. I checked Launchpad and it looks like it has already been listed as a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1897103<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/*bug/1897103__;Kw!!HYmSToo!Jr1o5usZ7OFHFlCrxRM37tf-ktNGbmaQynI7QcFmfRcp7NFCPy2hWjJjjqPkJ2Fk0Al4$>), although there's not much heat on it yet. Is this really not a problem for most public libraries? How do you all deal with the problem? When registering juveniles, do they all have to use an offline form to register? 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