Hi Hal,

>Unfortunately I still miss some of your posts because of the absence of a 
>date stamp, my mailer puts them way at the top of my list since I save all 
>of some categories of e-mail.

I'm really sorry. I *will* come back to Eudora one day!!!!

>Now I consider myself in favor of the idea that some input from a random 
>oracle is required in a SAS supporting universe so I am posing my arguments 
>in an effort to defeat determinism in such a setting.

Determinism has been defeated in the comp setting through the UDA, IMO.

To be sure, oracle appears too. That is, the UD generates and executes
all programs, including the one which are using (Turing) oracle.


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