Dear John: I should be more careful when I describe my particular concept of the no information system. It is actually a system that contains the two possible expressions of no information the Nothing [no factuals of any sort] and the Everything [the ensemble of all counterfactuals]. The existence of either is information. However, they are mutually counterfactual so if they exist simultaneously they total to no information and this absent the need for any external referent. Since they are both counterfactuals they are both actually in the Everything. Thus the Everything is a member of itself infinitely and randomly nested with its counterfactual the Nothing and again no external referent is required so information vanishes.
Of course one could initially parse the thing differently but in the end you still it seems to me wind up with an ensemble of all counterfactuals that is a member of itself. Hal At 7/23/02, you wrote: >The statement "it contains no information" IS information. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------ >(In "my" Plenitude story the "no info - infinite invariance total symmetry" >requires correction in this spirit. The "infinite variety" dose not fit: it >intrinsically includes repetitions of similars (and that is a major point >for generating universes) which (transitionally) falls out from both the >infinite symmetry and the infinite invariance. >Which is the fulguration for universe-formation, as observable complexity. >Sorry for the digression: I am reworking my 2000 text in this sense. > >John Mikes ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >"http://pages.prodigy.net/jamikes" >

