One of the _great_ things about this list is that it is relatively free of this wishy-washy kind of thinking!
jamikes wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C24123.A7A897E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dear Saibal Mitra, > I believe you represent the highest scientific level in physical views. = > This post is not personally > to you, your communication just prompted it - to the list.=20 > It is in my opinion a 20th (2000th?) level consequential sophistication = > of primitive views, > 2D, not even 3D, observing nature not even outside the cave.=20 > > I don't believe in atoms, photons, etc., which are ingenius = > representations of observed=20 > effects in their insufficient view, personalized into pieces of objects = > in lack of any better in > the ancient observational views. Millennia ago.=20 > Since then the view has not changed, irrespective of our epistemic = > enrichment.=20 > > We still add and add calculalitve newer and newer theories to the = > ancient dreamed-on views. > The mind (ours, the universe's, whatever) interprets the impact it = > receives. The newer ones=20 > are complacently fit into the old habits, even squeezed in. > It takes mental power to sever the dependence of the brainwashing of = > learned tales=20 > and think in new terms.There is IMO sufficient brainpower in this list = > for such renovative thinking. There were such initiations, there are = > still going-on topics of the new. Every now and then. > > A mirror-restricted symmetry is not the 'new way of thinking'. You did = > better other times. > Especially not for "particles" of scientific imagination. That we can = > get in physics class. > > Sorry, I hope not to have offended you, all I wanted is to shake up the = > latent talent to=20 > free-up itself from the complacent slumber. > > Respectfully > > John Mikes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "http://pages.prodigy.net/jamikes"; > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Saibal Mitra=20 > To: everything=20 > Cc: FoR=20 > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:57 AM > Subject: Ordinary atom-mirror atom bound states > > > http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0204256 > Ordinary atom-mirror atom bound states: A new window on the mirror = > world > Authors: R. Foot, S. Mitra > Comments: about 8 pages, couple of changes > > > Mirror symmetry is a plausible candidate for a fundamental symmetry = > of particle interactions which can be exactly conserved if a set of = > mirror particles exist. The properties of the mirror particles seem to = > provide an excellent candidate to explain the inferred dark matter of = > the Universe and might also be responsible for a variety of other = > puzzles in particle physics, astrophysics, meteoritics and planetary = > science. One such puzzle -- the orthopositronium lifetime problem -- can = > be explained if there is a small kinetic mixing of ordinary and mirror = > photons. We show that this kinetic mixing implies the existence of = > ordinary atom - mirror atom bound states with interesting terrestrial = > and astrophysical implications. We suggest that sensitive mass = > spectroscopic studies of ordinary samples containing heavy elements such = > as lead might reveal the presence of these bound states, as they would = > appear as anomalously heavy elements. In addition to the effects of = > single mirror atoms, collective effects from embedded fragments of = > mirror matter (such as mirror iron microparticles) are also possible. We = > speculate that such mirror matter fragments might explain a mysterious = > UV photon burst observed coming from a laser irradiated lead target in a = > recent experiment. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C24123.A7A897E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Dear Saibal Mitra,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I believe you represent the highest = > scientific=20 > level in physical views. This post is not personally</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">to you, your communication just = > prompted it -=20 > to the list. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">It is in my opinion a 20th=20 > (2000th?) level consequential sophistication of primitive=20 > views,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">2D, not even 3D, observing nature = > not even=20 > outside the cave. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I don't believe in atoms, photons, = > etc., which=20 > are ingenius representations of observed </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">effects in their insufficient view,=20 > personalized into pieces of objects in lack of any better = > in</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">the ancient observational views. = > </FONT><FONT=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">Millennia ago. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Since then the view has not changed, = > > irrespective of our epistemic enrichment. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">We still add and add calculalitve = > newer and=20 > newer theories to the ancient dreamed-on views.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">The mind (ours, the universe's, = > whatever)=20 > interprets the impact it receives. The newer ones </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">are complacently fit into the old = > habits, even=20 > squeezed in.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">It takes mental </FONT><FONT=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">power to sever the dependence of the = > brainwashing of=20 > learned tales </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">and think in new terms.</FONT><FONT=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">There is IMO sufficient brainpower in this list = > for such=20 > renovative thinking. There were such </FONT><FONT=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">initiations, there are still going-on topics of = > the new.=20 > Every now and then.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">A mirror-restricted symmetry is not = > the 'new=20 > way of thinking'. You did better other times.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Especially not for "particles" of = > scientific=20 > imagination. That we can get in physics class.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Sorry, I hope not to have = > offended=20 > you, all I wanted is to shake up the latent talent to = > </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">free-up itself from the complacent=20 > slumber.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Respectfully</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">John Mikes<BR><<A=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>><BR>"<A=20 > href=3D"http://pages.prodigy.net/jamikes";>http://pages.prodigy.net/jamike= > s</A>"</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Saibal=20 > Mitra</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>everything</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>FoR</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 11, 2002 = > 9:57=20 > AM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Ordinary atom-mirror = > atom bound=20 > states</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2> > <H2><A=20 > = > href=3D"http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0204256";>http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/= > 0204256</A></H2> > <H2>Ordinary atom-mirror atom bound states: A new window on the mirror = > > world</H2> > <P><B>Authors:</B> <A=20 > href=3D"http://arxiv.org/find/hep-ph/1/au:+Foot_R/0/1/0/all/0/1";>R. = > Foot</A>, <A=20 > href=3D"http://arxiv.org/find/hep-ph/1/au:+Mitra_S/0/1/0/all/0/1";>S.=20 > Mitra</A><BR><B>Comments:</B> about 8 pages, couple of changes<BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE>Mirror symmetry is a plausible candidate for a fundamental = > > symmetry of particle interactions which can be exactly conserved if = > a set of=20 > mirror particles exist. The properties of the mirror particles seem = > to=20 > provide an excellent candidate to explain the inferred dark matter = > of the=20 > Universe and might also be responsible for a variety of other = > puzzles in=20 > particle physics, astrophysics, meteoritics and planetary science. = > One such=20 > puzzle -- the orthopositronium lifetime problem -- can be explained = > if there=20 > is a small kinetic mixing of ordinary and mirror photons. We show = > that this=20 > kinetic mixing implies the existence of ordinary atom - mirror atom = > bound=20 > states with interesting terrestrial and astrophysical implications. = > We=20 > suggest that sensitive mass spectroscopic studies of ordinary = > samples=20 > containing heavy elements such as lead might reveal the presence of = > these=20 > bound states, as they would appear as anomalously heavy elements. In = > > addition to the effects of single mirror atoms, collective effects = > from=20 > embedded fragments of mirror matter (such as mirror iron = > microparticles) are=20 > also possible. We speculate that such mirror matter fragments might = > explain=20 > a mysterious UV photon burst observed coming from a laser irradiated = > lead=20 > target in a recent=20 > experiment.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C24123.A7A897E0-- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Director High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
