On 9 Nov 2003 at 16:22, Brent Meeker wrote:
> In the intial relativistic models of the origin of the universe,
> matter began with very high energy so it expanded against the pull
> gravity. Taking the zero of energy to be when the matter is
> infinitely dispersed, as is usual, the net energy of any portion of
> the universe is zero. Taking this back in time, the gravitational
> potential turns into kinetic energy and hence a hot big bang.
> However, this model had some problems explaining the great
> of the universe. Hence the inflationary model was invented by Alan
> Guth (c.f. his book "Inflation"). These models do assume another
> field as the source for inflation which may be independent of the
> cosmological 'constant'. This is usually referred to as the
> field' and there have been theories that tried to identify it with
> Higgs field. In the models the inflaton field changes dynamically,
> i.e. it and the scale of the universe are coupled in differential
I'm looking forward to the upcoming high energy experiments that just
might settle the issue of a gravity force carrier. My thought is that
it will never be found, that gravity ultimately is but another
expression of inflation; a kind of tension between our universe and
the meta universe that is trying to reclaim its virtual particles
that are our universe. I'm at loss to explain the physical properties
of that "tension" because I don't think there are any that can be
expressed in matter/energy terms (because they are space/time terms,
and I don't think the matter/energy and space/time can ever be
unified even though they do have effect upon each other). And it is
difficult to imagine a force carrier that could climb out of a black
hole and be expressed as "gravity" with particles in our universe.
> > >How is this argument consistent with the very accurate
> > >decay rates based on quantum analysis of potential barriers
> > >not consider inflation or any other aspect of gravity?
> > You refer to quantum mechanical tunneling, a probabilistic event?
> > We're getting Spooky again! It's a form of expression related to
> > Planck's constant. There is no "in between" state in QM, a
> > is either here or it's there when it comes to the smallest packet
> > energy that can be expressed. When decay occurs due to a particle
> > being "there" instead of being "here" (i.e. bound as it was to a
> > nucleus) we are simply seeing QM probability on display. This is
> > the same mechanism of decay being caused by inflation.
> But you postulated,"... one reason behind a decay of any particle
> (radioactive or not) is because of inflation..." I'm just pointing
> out that quantum tunneling already explains and accurately predicts
> the decay of radioactive atoms and unstable particles without
> considering inflation. So this seems to leave no role for
> as "one reason" for decay. Maybe you are referring to some kind of
> decay that has not been observed? like decay of the proton?
I postulated a different (non energy exchange) mechanism for decay,
not the only mechanism for decay (another being interaction with
another energy sources). I mean there's a difference to having pumped
something up to an unstable state and QM then doing its decay thing
versus something that is in a ground state which then suddenly decays
due to sudden bond breakage caused by space volume changes that
result from inflation. The two decay mechanisms are not related
whatsoever, although they both result in a decay. Unless pumped up to
a higher energy state by interaction with energy, particles seek to
be at ground state. Once all the "foreign" energy has been shed from
a particle via QM, it undergoes no more decay and is 100% stable.
Well, maybe not, but I think that it is so. Stable until the volume
of local inflation relative to that particle reaches a specific
No, I don't think we're likely to observe much in the way of locally
detectable decay due to inflation right *now*, because the rate of
and the volume of inflation locally has not exceeded the speed of
light at the atomic level - yet. Only where space/time inflation
between 2 points surpasses the speed of light to the point where a
particle within that volume can not interact with other particles can
one expect that *total* decay occurs. This is likely to occur in
voids and black holes sooner than elsewhere in the universe.
Unfortunately, when it happens it can not be observed. Well, maybe
there might be some really very high energy decay observed due to
some QM effect when the expansion rate relative to a particle is at
an infistimately small fraction below the speed of light, and we
might in result detect flashes of super high energy seemingly coming
randomly and from anywhere. But we detect nothing from within areas
where inflation is expanding faster than light.
Meanwhile, as volume of inflation increases and before it reaches
light speed there will still be observable effects of decay. Total
decay doesn't happen all at once, the process comes in packets of
energy decay over time as the space/time inflation volume increase
forces nuclear components away from each other. I suppose that total
decay will follow partial decay in a rather short time period.
Another good way to observe the effects of such a decay might be at
the event horizon of a black hole (just barely before entering it).
I've argued in this topic already that a black hole is, relative to
everything in our universe, just a localized example of an inflation
rate that has exceeded the speed of light. And that what we term
"gravity" is really what dark matter is, a tension being expressed
between our universe and the meta universe - it is everywhere and it
is not composed of matter/energy, it is composed of space/time.
Overall, dark matter is very highly uniform in its distribution
throughout the universe. But there are exceptions, the most obvious
being where there are black holes and anywhere else there is
matter/energy, so the concentrations vary at local scales. Higher
local concentrations of matter/energy simply mean there is higher
local "tension" involved.