Apologies for double-posting. My dial-up account is rather unreliable.
> Norman Samish wrote:
> > If "free will" simply means "self-determination" then Jonathan is
> > right, and to the extent we are self-determined we have
> free will. He
> > says, "the only relevant question as to whether our will is free is
> > whether our conscious minds (our selves) determine our actions."
> > But what about the sufferers of schizophrenia who Stathis
> > referred to? They exercise self-determination, and their
> mental state
> > is such that their actions, at least in some cases, are completely
> > predictable.
> > Do they have free will?
>JC: I don't see that the actions of schizophrenia patients are
> any more predicatable than yours or mine. In fact, people
> suffering from this disease are often *less* predictable
> (which is why schizophrenia can sometimes be dangerous). To