Le 22-mai-05, � 10:13, Lee Corbin a �crit :
[Stathis] Perhaps this is true, but it is
not logically consistent to say that it must be true and still
maintain the
1st person/ 3rd person distinction we have been discussing. This is
because
the whole point of the distinction is that it is not possible to
deduce or
understand that which is special about 1st person experience (namely,
consciousness) from an entirely 3rd person perspective.
Yes, in other words, it is ineffable.
Exactly. Like consistency for sound or just consistent machines, if you
simplify "ineffable" by unprovable. (Godel's second incompleteness
theorem)
Please, don't infer that I identify consciousness and consistency, but
I do think consciousness is a "logical descendant" of consistency.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/