> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Meeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:29 AM
> To: Lee Corbin
> Subject: Re: What We Can Know About the World
> On 29-Jul-05, you wrote:
> > Jesse writes
> >>> I meant that your perceptions have physiological causes
> >>> because your brain is a part of an obviously successful
> >>> survival machine designed by evolution.
> >> Sure, but all of this is compatible with an idealist philosophy where
> >> reality is made up of nothing but observer-moments at the most
> >> fundamental level--something like the "naturalistic panpsychism"
> >> discussed on that webpage I mentioned.
> > The disagreement I have with what you have written
> > is that I do *not* see observer-moments as the most
> > fundamental entities.
> There are two distinct kinds of "fundamental". OMs may be
> fundamental, but not ontologically fundamental. Starting with what we
> think we know, we develop a model of reality which goes beyond what we
> directly experience. It's the best explanation of our experience that
> there is a reality not dependent on our thoughts.
> >It's just so much *clearer*
> > to me to see them arising only after 13.7 billion
> > years or so (locally) and that they obtain *only* as
> > a result of physical processes.
> That seems to be the most parsimonious explanation.
> Brent Meeker