--- Lee Corbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Norm writes... > SNIP > "Computationalism" is yet another claim. It's the > notion that all of > our own thoughts as well could be implemented on a > Turing Machine in > a way that would deliver to us just as much > experiential satisfaction. > > Lee > Another view: According to Robert Rosen (who so far identified in the best ways those scanty views about his 'complexity' or my 'wholistic thinking') said about a difference between machine and natural system (my wording)that the former is a design within boundaries while the latter is occurring without boundaries in connection with the totality - and eo ipso is not TM-computable. I like the word for such: impredicative as subject to unrestricted (unlimited) number and quality of variables with impact of changes beyond the (snapshot) view we observe. I believe 'our own (present-day) thoughts are that much simplistic that a TM CAN provide 'experiential' satisfaction. Comprehending the wholeness (tatality) is beyond our mind's 2005-level capability. Which does not translate in shoving it under the rug. John Mikes

