Le 06-juil.-06, à 07:38, Norman Samish a écrit :

Anyway, all this is beside the point I wanted to make, which is that True Believers, whether Muslim, Christian, or heathen, cause harm, destruction or misfortune, and are therefore evil. 

I am not so sure. Perhaps I am just over-optimistic but I would say FALSE Believers cause harm, destruction ... Faith is not a problem, and someone who as genuine faith in some fundamental value will not try to impose it or to institutionalize it. I would say that it is mainly those who have "bad faith" who will try to impose it to others if only to convince themselves. Something like that.
For exemple, I separate more and more christianity from its "roman" abuse.

My principal question is this:  Is this evil inevitable in intelligent life? 

Yes. More generally it is the "fate" of any Universal Machine to discover some form of "evil" (type of lies), or the possibility of "evil", when just introspecting herself deeply enough. But it is exactly for that reason that there is no reason to be fatalist with evil, there is a possibility to learn to handle it, not with universal medicine, but with time, work, ...

I suspect it is.  And when life gets intelligent enough, and evolved enough, it figures out how to make A-bombs and other WMDs.  Then it may exterminate itself or, as you suggested, use up the raw materials accessible to it - and this explains Fermi's Paradox.

Hope they are less fatalist speculations about that ... But, given the few we know, perhaps you are right. I guess other explanations are still possible yet.



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