Brent Meeker wrote:

> > For the same reason they are far more Christians than Buddhist. And
> > none of your materialist even try to define matter. They take it for
> > granted, following mainly Aristotle. Almost all materialist react by
> > knocking a table when they want me to realize matter exists.
>
> But that is consistent.  You assume arithmetic is real and so you seek an 
> arithmetical definition of
> matter.  A scientists assume the matter gives an operational definition, e.g. 
> as Vic Stenger does:
> matter is what kicks back when you kick it.  You cannot criticize people who 
> don't believe in
> Platonia for giving non-platonic definitions.

hear,hear!


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