On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 10:46:58 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 6/3/2025 8:53 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 9:42:30 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 6/3/2025 3:25 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

*OK, let's split hairs. If "assumed" means zero evidence for a muon's 
clock, then "inferred" is better IF you believe a muon has some structure 
for defining a clock. OTOH, if a muon has no such structure, then it's OK 
to "assume" the existence of the clock. *

*IF* you *assume* a clock requires some internal structure.

*But instead of splitting hairs, how about a description of the structure 
of a muon's clock? *

So you want to *assume* that the muon can't keep time just by moving thru 
spacetime, but requires some structure.  Do you have a proof or is this 
mere surmise?

 
*It's a surmise, not a mere surmise, based on clocks I am familiar with. 
You're the relativity expert. You teach the masses. What's your concept of 
time keeping by a muon? AG*

*And if that clock shows no time dilation within the muon's frame of 
reference, how would that FACT effect its half-life? AG* 

I guess that would show that it wasn't *the* clock that determines the 
muon's decay.



*So what clock does it, if any? AG *



*I don't know.  But it must that something to do with the mass of the muon, 
the electron, and neutrino and the coupling of the neutrino, muon, and 
electron fields since a muon decays into and electron and a anti-neutrino. 
Brent*


*I don't see how those factors would effect the muon's half-life. I 
appreciate your honesty. I suspect the issue I have raised is unsolved, and 
this is what troubles me about Relativity. AG*


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