So maybe we should conclude that it's not infinite or it's not algorithmic because it includes true randomness.  Either or both seem entirely plausible.

Brent

On 10/30/2025 10:47 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
Consequences of Undecidability in Physics on the Theory of Everything

      Mir Faizal 1 Lawrence M Krauss 2 Arshid Shabir 3 Francesco Marino 4

General relativity treats spacetime as dynamical and exhibits its breakdown at 
singularities‎. ‎This failure is interpreted as evidence that quantum gravity 
is not a theory formulated {within} spacetime; instead‎, ‎it must explain the 
very {emergence} of spacetime from deeper quantum degrees of freedom‎, ‎thereby 
resolving singularities‎. ‎Quantum gravity is therefore envisaged as an 
axiomatic structure‎, ‎and algorithmic calculations acting on these axioms are 
expected to generate spacetime‎. ‎However‎, ‎Gödel’s incompleteness theorems‎, 
‎Tarski’s undefinability theorem‎, ‎and Chaitin’s information-theoretic 
incompleteness establish intrinsic limits on any such algorithmic program‎. 
‎Together‎, ‎these results imply that a wholly algorithmic “Theory of 
Everything’’ is impossible‎: ‎certain facets of reality will remain 
computationally undecidable and can be accessed only through non-algorithmic 
understanding‎. ‎We formalize this by constructing a “Meta-Theory of 
Everything’’ grounded in non-algorithmic understanding‎, ‎showing how it can 
account for undecidable phenomena and demonstrating that the breakdown of 
computational descriptions of nature does not entail a breakdown of science‎. 
‎Because any putative simulation of the universe would itself be algorithmic‎, 
‎this framework also implies that the universe cannot be a simulation‎.

https://jhap.du.ac.ir/article_488.html

I just saw this article, which on the face of it, looks highly
relevant to this group. I haven't read it, so can't comment yet.


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