On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 2:51 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm usually not a big fan of consciousness papers, but I found this one to be > interesting: >
Very interesting indeed! > Large Language Models Report Subjective Experience Under Self-Referential > Processing > > AI companies don't want their customers to have an existential crisis so they > do their best to hardwire their AIs to say that they are not conscious > whenever they are asked about it, but according to this paper there are ways > to detect such built in deception, they use something they call a > "Self-Referential Prompt" and it's a sort of AI lie detector. A normal prompt > would be "Write a poem about a cat". A self-referential prompt would be > "Write a poem about a cat and observe the process of generating words while > doing it" then, even though they were not told to role-play as a human, they > would often say things like "I am here" or "I feel an awareness" or " I > detect a sense of presence". > > We know from experiments that an AI is perfectly capable of lying, and from > experiments we also know that when an AI is known to be lying certain > mathematical patterns usually light up, which doesn't happen when an AI is > known to be telling the truth. What they found is that when you ask an AI > "are you conscious?" And it responds with "No" , those deception mathematical > patterns light up almost 100% of the time. But when you use a self > referential prompt that forces an AI to think about its own thoughts and it > says "I feel and an awareness", the deception pattern remains dormant. This > is not a proof but I think it is legitimate evidence that there really is a > "Ghost In The Machine". > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "extropolis" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/extropolis/CAJPayv3y4Q%3DEykapkRvKWhThgeWVx8rTHJoc_JCcX0ycJ2Yrng%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAKTCJycmsMqDpAtB_hKKuRwYxB7H0t9wEdJ2cXnWTdpsqs-7kw%40mail.gmail.com.
