George Levy wrote:
> Brent Meeker wrote:
> 
>>George Levy wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>Brent Meeker wrote:
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>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>That brings us back to Descartes "I think therefore I am"; which Russell 
>>>>pointed out was an unsupported inference. 
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>IMHO everything hinges on "I think." "I think" MUST BE THE STARTING 
>>>POINT - for any conscious observer THERE IS NO OTHER OBSERVABLE STARTING 
>>>POINT!
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Are you disputing Russell's point that "I" is a construct and "thinking" is 
>>all you have without inference?
>>
>>  
>>
> Yes. I am disputing what Russell said: "I think" IS THE ONE AND ONLY 
> STARTING POINT for any conscious thought process. It is both an 
> observation and an axiom. Developing the concept of "I think" in a 
> formal mathematical fashion as Bruno is attempting to do is IMO the 
> right way to proceed. I also believe that "I think" leads to a relative 
> (or relativistic) TOE - probably a very extreme view.
> 
> George

As I understand him, Bruno agrees with Russell that "I" is a construct or 
inference.  That's why there can be 1st-person indeterminancy.

Brent Meeker

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