OK, I see my mistake.  I was looking at whether the swapping was order independent.

But your post, /"and because they are Non-Abelian, swapping M1 and M2 and then M2 and M3, gives a different result than swapping M2 and M3, and then M1 and M2."/  is unnecessarily complicated.  Swapping M1 and M2 gives a different results if they are non-Abelian.

Brent

On 1/21/2026 5:16 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 4:02 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    //
    /> Doesn't that give different results whether they are Abelian or
    not.
    m1, m2, m3 -> m2,m1,m3 -> m3,m1,m2
    m1, m2, m3 -> m1,m3,m2 -> m2,m3,m1/

*If the interactions with the following particles _are __Abelian_then the final result of*
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*{ [(M1*M2)*M3]*(M2*M1)*M3*] }*(M3*M1)*M2*
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*would be _identical_ to the final result ofthe following reactions
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*{ [(M1*M2)*M3]*(M1*M3)*M2*] }*(M2*M3)*M1 *
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*But if you do the same thing with particles that _areNOT Abelian_then those two results would NOT be the same. *
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*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
eh7


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