On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 9:35 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:


>
> * > OK, I see my mistake.  I was looking at whether the swapping was order
> independent. But your post, "and because they are Non-Abelian, swapping M1
> and M2 and then M2 and M3, gives a different result than swapping M2 and
> M3, and then M1 and M2."  is unnecessarily complicated.  Swapping M1 and M2
> gives a different results if they are non-Abelian.*
>

*I used that as an example because not only does it demonstrate how
exotic  non-Abelian particles can encode information in ways that regular
everyday Abelian particles cannot,  it also shows how that information can
be used to perform calculations that Abelian particles cannot. *

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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Brent
>
> On 1/21/2026 5:16 AM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 4:02 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> * > Doesn't that give different results whether they are Abelian or not.
>> m1, m2, m3 -> m2,m1,m3 -> m3,m1,m2 m1, m2, m3 -> m1,m3,m2 -> m2,m3,m1*
>>
>
> *If the interactions with the following particles are Abelian then the
> final result of*
>
> *{ [(M1*M2)*M3]*(M2*M1)*M3*] }*(M3*M1)*M2*
>
>
> *would be identical to the final result of the following reactions  *
>
> *{ [(M1*M2)*M3]*(M1*M3)*M2*] }*(M2*M3)*M1 *
>
> *But if you do the same thing with particles that are NOT Abelian then
> those two results would NOT be the same. *
>
>
>
>>

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