Le 22-août-06, à 14:36, 1Z a écrit :
> > > Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> Hi, >> >> concerning process and programs, all boils down to the timeless/time >> argument. >> >> I'm astonished that you accept time as is, I mean if time there is it >> has been >> created at the same time as our universe in the bigbang. Time begin >> when the >> universe begin, so you accept that time can occur in a timeless system >> because if you don't then it means time existed before it was >> created... that >> make me write nonsensical sentences ;) > > We don't know what the BB emerged out of. It might have had > more than enough ontological resources to generate time. It did not > have time as we know it , but for all we know > time as we know it is a mere privation or degenerate case of > some funky hyper-time. > > But we do know what the resources of Platonia are. What do you mean by "resources of Platonia" ? > > It is a very wide, but very flat country; it contains every possible > static eternal > structure, but only static, eternal structures. No physical block universe then. But that confirms what Quentin Anciaux said, it all boils down to the question of a primitive time or not. Obviously, comp makes time (and space and all physicalities) form of "stable illusion" from inside. (But I dislike the word "illusion"). Many physicist, like Sanders for example, and many philosophers defend the indexical version of time (which is also defended by Deutsch). Peter, be patient for a comment to your long post of today, I am trying to finish a comment on another long post by David. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
