Russell Standish wrote: > > 2) RSSA vs ASSA - Isn't it the case that all 'absolute' self samples > > will appear to be 'relative' (i.e. to their own content) and hence > > 1st-person experience can be 'time-like' without the need for > > 'objective' sequencing of observer moments? If the 'pov' is that of the > > multiverse can't we simply treat all 1st-person experience as the > > 'absolute sampling' of all povs compresently? > > > > David > > > > I've lost you here. Maybe you need to expand a bit.
Why do we need to assume TIME as an ordering process for 'successive' moments under the RSSA assumption? Isn't it the case that, under the ASSA assumption, 1st-person experience would continue to appear 'time-like' (because of its 'relative' internal structure within each 'time capsule') without the need for a TIME postulate (i.e. Barbour's position)? David > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 12:52:25PM -0000, David Nyman wrote: > > > > Hi Russell > > > > I just received the book and have swiftly perused it (one of many > > iterations I expect). I find it to be a clear presentation of your own > > approach as well as a fine exposition of many topics from the list that > > had me baffled. A couple of things immediately occur: > > > > 1) QTI - I must say until reading your remarks (e.g. re pension plans) > > the possible personal consequences of QTI hadn't really struck me. If > > QTI is true, there is a fundamental assymetry between the 1st and > > 3rd-person povs vis-a-vis personal longevity (at least the longevity of > > consciousness), and this seems to imply that one should take seriously > > the prospect of being around in some form far longer than generally > > assumed from a purely 3rd-person perspective. This has obvious > > implications for retirement planning in general and avoidance of the > > more egregious cul-de-sac situations. On the other hand, short of > > outright lunacy vis-a-vis personal safety, it also seems to imply that > > from the 1st-person pov we are likely to come through (albeit possibly > > in less-than-perfect shape) even apparently minimally survivable > > situations. This struck me particularly forcibly while watching the > > 9/11 re-runs on TV last night. > > > > In effect, we are being presented with a kind of 'yes doctor' in > > everyday life. Do you find that these considerations affect your own > > behaviour in any way? > > I mentioned two examples in my book - retirement savings planning - I > will be looking wherever possible for "lifetime" pension options. Of > course from a QTI perspective, the value of these are limited by the > estimated lifetime of the superannuation company. > > The second example is my attitude to euthanasia has changed. > > Beyond that, I suppose I no longer fear death. What I do fear is > incapacitation, and so I weigh my risks of bodily damage in any > action against the risks to personal liberty etc. by inaction. It > probably does not change the decision matrix very much at all, however > I can't see suicide bombing as a useful strategy under QTI. > > > > > > 2) RSSA vs ASSA - Isn't it the case that all 'absolute' self samples > > will appear to be 'relative' (i.e. to their own content) and hence > > 1st-person experience can be 'time-like' without the need for > > 'objective' sequencing of observer moments? If the 'pov' is that of the > > multiverse can't we simply treat all 1st-person experience as the > > 'absolute sampling' of all povs compresently? > > > > David > > > > I've lost you here. Maybe you need to expand a bit. > > > -- > *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which > is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a > virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this > email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you > may safely ignore this attachment. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Australia http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
