On Mar 2, 9:11 am, "1Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2 Mar, 11:54, "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 3/2/07, Tom Caylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > God would be outside of the plenitude, and thus would break the
>
> > > meaning/moral circularity inherent in the plenitude, breaking its
> > > symmetry of meaningless whiteness/blackness and bringing order.  He
> > > basically would be in charge of the evolution of the countless
> > > histories of the universes.  But this seems superfluous to what is
> > > needed for meaning for us in this universe.  Thus why bother with
> > > multiverses?  You haven't shown how multiverses give meaning.
>
> > What about considering God as identical with the plenitude? In a sense, both
> > are omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, transcendent as well as immanent,
> > outside of time and space, the source of all things, and the plenitude has
> > the additional attribute of necessary existence, which is philosophically
> > contentious in God's case (the ontological argument again).
>
> cf Whitehead's Primordial Nature of God.

Stathis' proposal is not the same as Whitehead's concept.
Stathis' original proposal (the plenitude is God): all that is is God.
Whitehead's concept: all that is is IN God, and God is IN all that is.

Tom


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